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Permalink Reply by Bob Farmer on January 20, 2010 at 3:50pm
Permalink Reply by KregRep on January 23, 2010 at 9:36pm Are you recommending using pan head as opposed to washer head "on a wholesale level" or in a particular circumstance?
Permalink Reply by John Magee on January 24, 2010 at 8:24pm
Permalink Reply by George Belton on January 7, 2011 at 10:47pm
I have used red oak as well and used the correct length of screws as well as the fine thread to join red oak together for a face frame. I have set up my drill clutch so that it doesn't over drive the screw. I do clamp the pieces together. I have split nearly every piece of red oak that the screw went into. If the wood is not split, then the joint isn't tight (the joints are square), and then when I tighten it to pull it tightly together, the piece being joined splits out on the face with the screw point just below the surface of the face.
I have also changed the hole placement and I still have the result. The only thing that I haven't changed yet is the depth of the stop on the drill bit. The point of the bit is about 1/8th of an inch above the bottom of the jig. I have not had this issue when I have joined the same thickness of plywood with the coarse thread screws. Any suggestions on what to do would be appreciated for this hardwood challenge. Thanks.
Permalink Reply by John Magee on January 8, 2011 at 8:18pm
I have used red oak as well and used the correct length of screws as well as the fine thread to join red oak together for a face frame. I have set up my drill clutch so that it doesn't over drive the screw. I do clamp the pieces together. I have split nearly every piece of red oak that the screw went into. If the wood is not split, then the joint isn't tight (the joints are square), and then when I tighten it to pull it tightly together, the piece being joined splits out on the face with the screw point just below the surface of the face.
I have also changed the hole placement and I still have the result. The only thing that I haven't changed yet is the depth of the stop on the drill bit. The point of the bit is about 1/8th of an inch above the bottom of the jig. I have not had this issue when I have joined the same thickness of plywood with the coarse thread screws. Any suggestions on what to do would be appreciated for this hardwood challenge. Thanks.
Permalink Reply by Chris Salazar on February 20, 2011 at 6:13pm
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Permalink Reply by Chris Salazar on February 20, 2011 at 8:04pm
Permalink Reply by John Magee on February 20, 2011 at 8:24pm I would definitely check the depth of the stop collar and also the setting on the jig for the correct wood thickness. I built a complete set of cabinet faceframes using kiln dried red oak and have not seen a single split on any of the hundreds of joints. Also double check you are using the correct Kreg skrew for hardwood and board thickness. Kreg has a chart to match these dimensions up. Let me know if you find something other than these tips that is causing your splitting problems so I can learn something new also. Good luck
George Belton said:
I have used red oak as well and used the correct length of screws as well as the fine thread to join red oak together for a face frame. I have set up my drill clutch so that it doesn't over drive the screw. I do clamp the pieces together. I have split nearly every piece of red oak that the screw went into. If the wood is not split, then the joint isn't tight (the joints are square), and then when I tighten it to pull it tightly together, the piece being joined splits out on the face with the screw point just below the surface of the face.
I have also changed the hole placement and I still have the result. The only thing that I haven't changed yet is the depth of the stop on the drill bit. The point of the bit is about 1/8th of an inch above the bottom of the jig. I have not had this issue when I have joined the same thickness of plywood with the coarse thread screws. Any suggestions on what to do would be appreciated for this hardwood challenge. Thanks.
Permalink Reply by John Magee on February 20, 2011 at 8:38pm OK, I just left my garage and got my Kreg Jig Set out and double checked the settings I used for my cabinets. In my set it has a gauge that has different wood thickness and hardness, For red oak or any hardwood use the fine thread and length recomended, I think it is 11/2" , and set the stop collar at the correct setting that comes with almost every Kreg pocket hole kit you can buy. This is VERY IMPORTANT, to have the stop collar set correctly!! If you do this bit of homework I promise you that your joints will not split. I am now on about my 2000th joint and not had a single splkit yet!! You have not got something set correctly according tyo the Kreg Jig Parameters. Please let me know how this works out, I really needf to know what is going on here and will adjust my work accordingly! Thank you very much for including me in your project.
John Magee said:I would definitely check the depth of the stop collar and also the setting on the jig for the correct wood thickness. I built a complete set of cabinet faceframes using kiln dried red oak and have not seen a single split on any of the hundreds of joints. Also double check you are using the correct Kreg skrew for hardwood and board thickness. Kreg has a chart to match these dimensions up. Let me know if you find something other than these tips that is causing your splitting problems so I can learn something new also. Good luck
George Belton said:
I have used red oak as well and used the correct length of screws as well as the fine thread to join red oak together for a face frame. I have set up my drill clutch so that it doesn't over drive the screw. I do clamp the pieces together. I have split nearly every piece of red oak that the screw went into. If the wood is not split, then the joint isn't tight (the joints are square), and then when I tighten it to pull it tightly together, the piece being joined splits out on the face with the screw point just below the surface of the face.
I have also changed the hole placement and I still have the result. The only thing that I haven't changed yet is the depth of the stop on the drill bit. The point of the bit is about 1/8th of an inch above the bottom of the jig. I have not had this issue when I have joined the same thickness of plywood with the coarse thread screws. Any suggestions on what to do would be appreciated for this hardwood challenge. Thanks.
Permalink Reply by David Thompson on February 22, 2011 at 1:46pm I am building some cabinets out of "1X4" pine as my first kreg Jig Project. I was having some issues with splitting especially on the rails at the end of the board. Two things that I found that were causing this are:
My 1X4, which I assumed to be 3/4" thick, were actually closer to 5/8ths thick. (Measure your boards, don't just assume that they are correct, set up your jig and use the correct screw length for that thickness.)
By placing my pocket holes farther away from the edge that will be near the end of the mating board, I ran less risk of splitting.
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