I’m looking for tips, advice, instructions, etc. for installing pop rivets in alumnium tubing; the instructions that came with my pop rivet gun are sketchy to say the least.
Roy Moses
Kerrville, TX
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I guess it’s the crimping. On the trial runs I have made they haven’t snugged up good and tight — so I figure that’s my problem. So, I guess it’s time to try again; I moved not too long ago and really haven’t gotten the shop set up and haven’t been able to spend a whole lot of time there — thanks both to the move and some recent health setbacks.
Thanks for the note John. I’ll try to let you know when I conquer this beast —what a friend used to call the innate contrariness of inanimate objects.
Roy
John Schaben said:
Hi Roy - just what don't you understand about POP rivets? Fairly straightforward; drill a hole, put a rivet in long enugh to go through both pieces and crimp with the tool.
Hi Roy:
When you put the rivet gun on, ensure that you keep it snug against the aluminum. If you let it ride up the rivet you'll get a loose joint. Keep it snug and it will draw the pieces together.
Hi Roy,
Not to disagree with the general consensus of blind (pop) rivets and their application. It is a bit more precise than drill a hole about the same size and install. I worked the aviation industry for almost 45 years and used many many rivets. I realize that home diy'ers and aircraft work is not the same thing but the mechanics are all the same. You can down load a phamplet that gives you all the information on preparing the metal for assembly and doing it properly. The best is found at this website. It is in PDF form so you can save it to your computer or print it for future reference. www.cherryaerospace.com It deals with cherry max rivets but it has much valuable information on rivet work and selection of friction lock (pop) rivets. Hope this sheds some light on your question
Jens,
I have not read any of the follow up on the SouthWest jet. I did observe, in the news media, the jagged manner in which the skin came off. In my estimation, and mine only, I would tend to suspect intergranular corrosion. This is a condition that is set up at the manufacturing phase of the aluminum, either a pocket of impurities within the metal or in the heat treatment of the aluminum it self. Another point is that fuselage consstruction is done with solid rivets, although if authorized, repairs may be performed with friction lock rivets or special bolts ie: jobotls or similar specialty fastners. So I would, and here again only my opinion, tend to rule out any rivet work as the primary cause fo this structural failure. For any more in-depth opinions please feel free to contact me personally. raymero@yahoo.com
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