Stain producing two diffrent shades..? - Kreg Owners' Community2024-03-28T09:55:01Zhttps://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/stain-producing-two-diffrent-shades?commentId=2900167%3AComment%3A358066&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noAnother method of getting a d…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2011-09-19:2900167:Comment:3580662011-09-19T00:35:31.072ZBennett S. Reynoldshttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/BennettSReynolds
Another method of getting a darker color is to steam an area or piece with any kind of steam machine or steam iron and let it dry before application of stain. The heat and moisture will open the grain of the wood to allow deeper and darker color. Ditto on Minwax Products. <br></br>
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Another method of getting a darker color is to steam an area or piece with any kind of steam machine or steam iron and let it dry before application of stain. The heat and moisture will open the grain of the wood to allow deeper and darker color. Ditto on Minwax Products. <br/>
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<cite>Mike Robson said:</cite><br />
<blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/stain-producing-two-diffrent-shades?commentId=2900167%3AComment%3A357464&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2900167Comment357464"><div><p>HI bennett....sorry for not responding sooner.</p>
<p>I have always used Minwax products...I have good luck with them.</p>
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<blockquote><div>In the past I have had the same problem or something simular. My project comes out darker than I want, or it is supposed to have a red tent and it is brown. What wood conditioner do you recommendand where do I buy it?<br/><br/><cite>Mike Robson said:</cite><blockquote><div>Was the headboard exposed to direct sunlight when drying ? ...and yes it is best to finish any "set" pieces at the same time if possible...you may also want to try wood conditioner before staining, especially if on pine.</div>
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</blockquote> I like using the oil based Mi…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2011-09-18:2900167:Comment:3573802011-09-18T03:33:19.520ZStevehttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/Steve570
I like using the oil based Minwax stains. Sand the wood smooth, before applying the stain. I top the wood with Minwax polyurethane, oil based. The also have spar polyurethane for exterior use.
I like using the oil based Minwax stains. Sand the wood smooth, before applying the stain. I top the wood with Minwax polyurethane, oil based. The also have spar polyurethane for exterior use. HI bennett....sorry for not r…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2011-09-18:2900167:Comment:3574642011-09-18T00:48:34.852ZMike Robsonhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/MikeRobson
<p>HI bennett....sorry for not responding sooner.</p>
<p>I have always used Minwax products...I have good luck with them.</p>
<p><br></br><br></br><cite>Craig Sims said:</cite></p>
<blockquote><div>In the past I have had the same problem or something simular. My project comes out darker than I want, or it is supposed to have a red tent and it is brown. What wood conditioner do you recommendand where do I buy it?<br></br><br></br><cite>Mike Robson said:</cite><blockquote><div>Was the headboard exposed to direct…</div>
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<p>HI bennett....sorry for not responding sooner.</p>
<p>I have always used Minwax products...I have good luck with them.</p>
<p><br/><br/><cite>Craig Sims said:</cite></p>
<blockquote><div>In the past I have had the same problem or something simular. My project comes out darker than I want, or it is supposed to have a red tent and it is brown. What wood conditioner do you recommendand where do I buy it?<br/><br/><cite>Mike Robson said:</cite><blockquote><div>Was the headboard exposed to direct sunlight when drying ? ...and yes it is best to finish any "set" pieces at the same time if possible...you may also want to try wood conditioner before staining, especially if on pine.</div>
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Oil based stains can usually be lightened with mineral spirits.<br></br>
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<cite>Don Trust said:</cite><br />
<blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/stain-producing-two-diffrent-shades#2900167Comment351968"><div><p>The best wood conditioner is "Charles Neil's Blotch Control"</p>
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Oil based stains can usually be lightened with mineral spirits.<br/>
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<cite>Don Trust said:</cite><br />
<blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/stain-producing-two-diffrent-shades#2900167Comment351968"><div><p>The best wood conditioner is "Charles Neil's Blotch Control"</p>
<p>You can get it here.</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://shop.charlesneilwoodworking.com/Charles-Neils-Pre-Color-Conditioner--Blotch-Control_p_47.html">http://shop.charlesneilwoodworking.com/Charles-Neils-Pre-Color-Cond...</a></p>
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<p>Can't say enough good about it. It's more expensive than others, but the results are well worth it.<br/> <br/> <cite>Craig Sims said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/stain-producing-two-diffrent-shades#2900167Comment350487"><div>In the past I have had the same problem or something simular. My project comes out darker than I want, or it is supposed to have a red tent and it is brown. What wood conditioner do you recommendand where do I buy it?<br/><br/><cite>Mike Robson said:</cite><blockquote><div>Was the headboard exposed to direct sunlight when drying ? ...and yes it is best to finish any "set" pieces at the same time if possible...you may also want to try wood conditioner before staining, especially if on pine.</div>
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</blockquote> The best wood conditioner is…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2011-09-11:2900167:Comment:3519682011-09-11T03:00:53.138ZDon Trusthttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/DonTrust
<p>The best wood conditioner is "Charles Neil's Blotch Control"</p>
<p>You can get it here.</p>
<p><a href="http://shop.charlesneilwoodworking.com/Charles-Neils-Pre-Color-Conditioner--Blotch-Control_p_47.html">http://shop.charlesneilwoodworking.com/Charles-Neils-Pre-Color-Conditioner--Blotch-Control_p_47.html</a></p>
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<p>Can't say enough good about it. It's more expensive than others, but the results are well worth it.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Craig Sims said:…</cite></p>
<p>The best wood conditioner is "Charles Neil's Blotch Control"</p>
<p>You can get it here.</p>
<p><a href="http://shop.charlesneilwoodworking.com/Charles-Neils-Pre-Color-Conditioner--Blotch-Control_p_47.html">http://shop.charlesneilwoodworking.com/Charles-Neils-Pre-Color-Conditioner--Blotch-Control_p_47.html</a></p>
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<p>Can't say enough good about it. It's more expensive than others, but the results are well worth it.<br/> <br/>
<cite>Craig Sims said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/stain-producing-two-diffrent-shades#2900167Comment350487"><div>In the past I have had the same problem or something simular. My project comes out darker than I want, or it is supposed to have a red tent and it is brown. What wood conditioner do you recommendand where do I buy it?<br/><br/><cite>Mike Robson said:</cite><blockquote><div>Was the headboard exposed to direct sunlight when drying ? ...and yes it is best to finish any "set" pieces at the same time if possible...you may also want to try wood conditioner before staining, especially if on pine.</div>
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</blockquote> The wood conditioner needs to…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2011-09-11:2900167:Comment:3519662011-09-11T02:58:30.678ZStevehttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/Steve570
The wood conditioner needs to be applied before the stain, it should be the same brand as the stain. What I would do is make up stained wood samples that match your staining problem, take the samples to a paint store where you can get good advice and find out what is recommended to correct the problem.
The wood conditioner needs to be applied before the stain, it should be the same brand as the stain. What I would do is make up stained wood samples that match your staining problem, take the samples to a paint store where you can get good advice and find out what is recommended to correct the problem. I use Minwax oil stain, you m…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2011-09-11:2900167:Comment:3519642011-09-11T02:52:43.392ZStevehttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/Steve570
I use Minwax oil stain, you may need to put on another coat of stain. Test it on a small area that is not too noticeable, that way if the stains don't match, it won't be a big problem. Water based stains tend to be problematic. You need to put on an under coating and then the stain. The stain is really a translucent paint, rather than a real stain. A real stain is absorbed into the wood, hence the purpose of the oil base. When the color is dark enough, you need to wipe the stain off with a…
I use Minwax oil stain, you may need to put on another coat of stain. Test it on a small area that is not too noticeable, that way if the stains don't match, it won't be a big problem. Water based stains tend to be problematic. You need to put on an under coating and then the stain. The stain is really a translucent paint, rather than a real stain. A real stain is absorbed into the wood, hence the purpose of the oil base. When the color is dark enough, you need to wipe the stain off with a cloth. I usually do two applications of the stain to get the right depth of color. I usually sand the wood first, so that the stain will be absorbed uniformly. See my latest project, was stained with 2 coats of stain and then 2 coats of polyurethane. The project was made out of White Pine, a soft wood which will readily absorb the stain. In the past I have had the sa…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2011-09-09:2900167:Comment:3504872011-09-09T11:21:46.084ZCraig Simshttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/CraigSims
In the past I have had the same problem or something simular. My project comes out darker than I want, or it is supposed to have a red tent and it is brown. What wood conditioner do you recommendand where do I buy it?<br></br><br></br><cite>Mike Robson said:</cite>
<blockquote><div>Was the headboard exposed to direct sunlight when drying ? ...and yes it is best to finish any "set" pieces at the same time if possible...you may also want to try wood conditioner before staining, especially if on…</div>
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In the past I have had the same problem or something simular. My project comes out darker than I want, or it is supposed to have a red tent and it is brown. What wood conditioner do you recommendand where do I buy it?<br/><br/><cite>Mike Robson said:</cite>
<blockquote><div>Was the headboard exposed to direct sunlight when drying ? ...and yes it is best to finish any "set" pieces at the same time if possible...you may also want to try wood conditioner before staining, especially if on pine.</div>
</blockquote> Two things occur to me. First…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2011-09-08:2900167:Comment:3500682011-09-08T19:43:04.121ZJohn Schabenhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/JohnSchaben
<p>Two things occur to me. First, did you use stain sealer on both pieces? Usually, without stain sealer pine will become blotchy but it could also account for different absorbtion between the two pieces.</p>
<p>Second, Was the headboard sanded to a finer grit than the bed frame, or, sanded more? Sanding smoother produces a smooth surface but also tends to fill the grain slowing stain absorbtion. <br></br><br></br><cite>Derrick Williams said:</cite></p>
<blockquote><div>Both pieces were built with…</div>
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<p>Two things occur to me. First, did you use stain sealer on both pieces? Usually, without stain sealer pine will become blotchy but it could also account for different absorbtion between the two pieces.</p>
<p>Second, Was the headboard sanded to a finer grit than the bed frame, or, sanded more? Sanding smoother produces a smooth surface but also tends to fill the grain slowing stain absorbtion. <br/><br/><cite>Derrick Williams said:</cite></p>
<blockquote><div>Both pieces were built with pine. I'm thinking one may have been white pine and the other yellow pine . Neither piece<br/>Was put in the sun to dry.</div>
</blockquote> Was the container of stain pr…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2011-09-08:2900167:Comment:3499752011-09-08T19:13:39.695ZMike Thompsonhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/MikeThompson
Was the container of stain properly stirred on both applications? This could accounts for the different shades.
Was the container of stain properly stirred on both applications? This could accounts for the different shades.