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Hello, My name is Troy Burns

 I live in Wv, i have the k4 Master system. and a few other Kreg tools. I have been out of woodworking for about 17 years,and now i'm trying to get back into it. I have lost track of which tools are good.

 I would like some help on the larger tools such as tablesaw, bandsaw ,and so on.

Any help will be great.

                                                                            Thx Troy

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I just set up a new shop.  I have a 52 inch Delta table saw, a 6 inch craftsman joiner, a 15 inch Delta planer, band saw, scroll saw, drill press, mortiser and plus a Shopsmith 5-in-1 tool that I have had for 20 some years.  Also, a multitude of hand tools - routers, dremel tools, circular saw, reciprocating saw, jig saw, Kreg Master system, cordless drill, air compressor with finish nailer, brad nailer and stapler.  I also have a set up to do stain glass.  Don't know if that helps.  Glenn 

One tool you should have is the  Dewalt DWP611PK. router kit.  It only takes 1/4" bits, but I don't find that to be a problem.  Much larger bits should only be used on a router table. I like the compact router because it much easier to handle.

For considerably more money, consider a router table in addition: 

Get or make a router table. Install a  MLCS motorized router lift.  The convenience of the router lift is substantial.

I have a INCRA fence positioner on my router table and use its features often.

I have a router table with lift, and use it on most of my projects.  I don't have the motorized lift, and wish that I did.  The MLCS only takes 3.5 diameter routers, which eliminates the really big ones, but the motorized lift would be very convenient.

I use my router table setup on most of my projects, even if it is to only round off the corners. My compact router is used only when the project is too big for my router table.

I have two bandsaws.  A Delta 14" which is set up with a resawing blade, and a cheap benchtop which is set up with a 3/16" blade which I use for radiused cuts.  This saves the considerable time it would take to change blades if I only had one.

Check Craigslist for used tools. You can save considerably.

In my 2 car garage, I have the following, with room left to park a compact car:

Shark CNC Pro plus CNC router, router table, radial arm saw, cabinet saw, 14" band saw, joiner, planer, 9" band saw, dust collector, and overhead air cleaner.

Ken, in answer to your questions

The saw is a Craftsmen 8 inch tilting arbor bench saw, belt driven by a 3/4 HP motor.

The saw tabletop itself is 34" wide x 21" deep. The real width of the saw is 17". After reading your message with questions I looked at the documentation and found out the saw has 2 8 1/2" side extensions attached.

The manual that came with it is dated 1954.

I should also say that I'm just a beginner that will probably just do an occasional project. The kreg jig looked like a good alternative to other types of joinery. When my son asked me to build a simple table, I decided to buy the kreg master system hoping it would simplify the project. All the stock is cut and pocket holes drilled.

I now just have to transport material to his house assemble, sand and paint.

I used to take honey do vacations, now I get to take sonny do vacations.



Ken Darga said:

Hi Rich,

What's the blade size, of your Craftsman saw?

Tilting table or tilting arbor?

Table size?

Does it have the integral motor?

Can you obtain replacement or serviceable parts?

The construction of the 1950's saw is a better construction over their current models.

Find a way to keep it, if it is suitable for your wood working needs.

If a homeowner or small shop owner needs a table saw, today's job-site or work-site saws are very handy.

They're portable, lighter weight, take up little space and easily storeable.

If one needs to rip longer project pieces, an extension can easily be added---such as a portable folding stand that has an integral roller.

For sheet goods, use a circular hand saw, cut the project piece a little over-size and dress the ends with a router and straight-edge.

Richard Calsada said:

Thanks for your suggestions Ken, I do have a Craftsmen Table saw circa 1950's inherited from my father in law, Just don't know if I'll have enough room for it when I relocate.

Ken and Michael

 thanks , for the input .

Rich,

I'd keep that saw, and use it for more than just an occasional project.

Buy larger pieces of lumber, boards or sheet goods, and cut them to the size you need.

Larger size pieces are less costly per square ft., which will save you some money.

I don't think you'll find a better saw anywhere, for a beginner wood worker.

The table size with extensions, will suffice nicely for all your cabinet wood working projects, as well.

The 3/4 HP motor is adequate---better than most of today's 2hp motors.

The 8" size blade is adequate.  

Invest in 7-1/4" saw blades ---they are more common for circular hand saws, 

and fit nicely in your table saw.

Obtain a 7-1/4'' 40 tooth carbide thin blade---it'll make ultra smooth cuts.

Richard Calsada said:

Ken, in answer to your questions

The saw is a Craftsmen 8 inch tilting arbor bench saw, belt driven by a 3/4 HP motor.

The saw tabletop itself is 34" wide x 21" deep. The real width of the saw is 17". After reading your message with questions I looked at the documentation and found out the saw has 2 8 1/2" side extensions attached.

The manual that came with it is dated 1954.

I should also say that I'm just a beginner that will probably just do an occasional project.

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 Troy,

 

 You might have to put your shop tools like tablesaw, bandsaw, and etc. On one side of the shop so you could move from tool to tool. Also check out the pawn shops in your area and garage sales too.  You might want to build yourself a work table that can be folded and stored away.  Here is a website that has alot of woodworking plans and shop work table plans too. Here...www.freewoodworkingplan.com. Check it out they're in a to z order and they are free.

                           Leslee

thanks Leslee

  Just in case anyone wants to know hartville tools still has the Kreg Toolboxx for 59.99 and the complete set for 219.99.here is the link. http://www.hartvilletool.com/product/5322/kreg-pocket-hole-screws

I was lucky enough to pick up a Rigid 14" bandsaw at a woodworking show.  It was a demo unit that they didn't want to pack up for the trip home. I got it and the product they were selling for $350 IIRC.  Luck struck again when my wifes father decided to get a new table saw and he gave me his older Craftsman.  It's not the 3hp unit but it's still gets the job done nicely.  I bought a little Porter Cable scroll saw for smaller projects. Then I have a miter saw and circular saw.

Will you be using rough lumber or milled lumber?  If rough a jointer and planer would be in the mix.

I would scour Craigslist or use SearchTempest for decent used tools.

Thanks Heath

Troy,

One of the best sites for woodworkers is www.lumberjocks.com and it is free. There are over 20,000 members worldwide. However be careful the site becomes addictive. You don't want to spend more time reading about woodworking than doing it.

Hi Troy,

I just got my workshop built and am in the process of stocking it up. I am a hobby woodworker. I have been finding lots of assorted tools at yard and garage sales. Excellent pirces. got a Craftsman Radial arm saw and a Craftsman table saw. $125 for the radial and 150 for the table saw. a 7" circular saw for $10 and the list goes on. Look in your newspaper through the week for the weekend sales. Good Luck hope this offered a viable look at where to seek good deals. But check out what is available and make sure that they work.

Ray

I do have a BladeRunner and, while it does excellent work on smaller projects, to get the pieces down to a more BladeRunner-manageable size, I do still tend to use both the table- and bandsaws. It's great for what it does, but it really does depend on the sizes of the pieces you are cutting.

Don

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