Self-Centering Drill Bits - Kreg Owners' Community2024-03-28T17:06:54Zhttps://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/self-centering-drill-bits?commentId=2900167%3AComment%3A770318&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThankfully with some help on…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2015-11-17:2900167:Comment:7746252015-11-17T21:33:13.215ZStephanie Hhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/StephanieH
<p>Thankfully with some help on the side, I was able so sort through it all and make a good choice. :)</p>
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<p>Thankfully with some help on the side, I was able so sort through it all and make a good choice. :)</p>
<p></p> You certainly have enough amm…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2015-11-17:2900167:Comment:7747762015-11-17T20:29:31.641ZAlex Brollyhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/AlexBrolly45
<p>You certainly have enough ammunition to go now.</p>
<p>You certainly have enough ammunition to go now.</p> I certainly did not mean to g…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2015-10-25:2900167:Comment:7706182015-10-25T18:12:47.575ZStephanie Hhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/StephanieH
<p>I certainly did not mean to get people arguing regarding this. I think in sorting through all this I have the info I need. Thank you all. </p>
<p>I certainly did not mean to get people arguing regarding this. I think in sorting through all this I have the info I need. Thank you all. </p> KEN the milescraft set is als…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2015-10-25:2900167:Comment:7704572015-10-25T17:19:40.285Zjames wilhelmhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/jameswilhelm
<p>KEN the milescraft set is also what I made reference to , just wondered what they had to do with the post on self centering vix bit for drilling hinges ??? I have a set of VIX bit,s by Snappy , and sold by woodcraft and they work great , about $30.00 !!! I also have two set,s of counter set bit,s made by snappy and they work very good , maybe you could try them for your project,s ? I use them on all my project,s and get a very nice counter sink hole !! My point was why show a goggle…</p>
<p>KEN the milescraft set is also what I made reference to , just wondered what they had to do with the post on self centering vix bit for drilling hinges ??? I have a set of VIX bit,s by Snappy , and sold by woodcraft and they work great , about $30.00 !!! I also have two set,s of counter set bit,s made by snappy and they work very good , maybe you could try them for your project,s ? I use them on all my project,s and get a very nice counter sink hole !! My point was why show a goggle pic. of some thing that has nothing to do with the post !!! If you want I can post real pic,s of the tool,s that I own and use every day , not some thing that was goggled !! Have a great day , JIM !!!!!!!<br/> <br/> <cite>Ken Darga said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/self-centering-drill-bits?xg_source=activity#2900167Comment770537"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>James,</p>
<p>My comment references the Milescraft bits.</p>
<p>The set I purchased was not satisfactory for me---</p>
<p>they did not produce smooth countersink/counterbored holes.</p>
<p>The cutting edges of the countersink were not keenly sharp.</p>
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<p>It's okay for use in rough lumber and building, but I didn't find it useful in cabinetry or furniture work.</p>
<p><br/> <cite>james wilhelm said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/self-centering-drill-bits?commentId=2900167%3AComment%3A770580&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2900167Comment770428"><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>What dose a counter sink bit set have to do with drilling holes for a hinge , they can be used to build cabinet,s and furniture ????? <br/> <br/> <cite>Ken Darga said:</cite></p>
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<p>Another type by <strong>Milescraft</strong></p>
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<p>#6, 8, 10 & 12 Screws.</p>
<p>About $10</p>
<p>Less effective than Bosch.</p>
<p><strong>I didn't find this type suitable for cabinet or furniture work.</strong></p>
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My comment references…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2015-10-25:2900167:Comment:7705372015-10-25T03:53:45.627ZKen Dargahttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/KenDarga
<p>James,</p>
<p>My comment references the Milescraft bits.</p>
<p>The set I purchased was not satisfactory for me---</p>
<p>they did not produce smooth countersink/counterbored holes.</p>
<p>The cutting edges of the countersink were not keenly sharp.</p>
<p></p>
<p>It's okay for use in rough lumber and building, but I didn't find it useful in cabinetry or furniture work.</p>
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<p>James,</p>
<p>My comment references the Milescraft bits.</p>
<p>The set I purchased was not satisfactory for me---</p>
<p>they did not produce smooth countersink/counterbored holes.</p>
<p>The cutting edges of the countersink were not keenly sharp.</p>
<p></p>
<p>It's okay for use in rough lumber and building, but I didn't find it useful in cabinetry or furniture work.</p>
<p><br/> <cite>james wilhelm said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/self-centering-drill-bits?commentId=2900167%3AComment%3A770580&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2900167Comment770428"><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>What dose a counter sink bit set have to do with drilling holes for a hinge , they can be used to build cabinet,s and furniture ????? <br/> <br/> <cite>Ken Darga said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/self-centering-drill-bits?xg_source=activity#2900167Comment770575"><div class="xg_user_generated"><p><b>>>>...</b></p>
<p>Another type by <strong>Milescraft</strong></p>
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<p>#6, 8, 10 & 12 Screws.</p>
<p>About $10</p>
<p>Less effective than Bosch.</p>
<p><strong>I didn't find this type suitable for cabinet or furniture work.</strong></p>
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</blockquote> What dose a counter sink bit…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2015-10-25:2900167:Comment:7704282015-10-25T00:00:29.166Zjames wilhelmhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/jameswilhelm
<p>What dose a counter sink bit set have to do with drilling holes for a hinge , they can be used to build cabinet,s and furniture ????? <br></br> <br></br> <cite>Ken Darga said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/self-centering-drill-bits?xg_source=activity#2900167Comment770575"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p><strong>Vix type self-centering bits</strong></p>
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<p>Bosch 3 pc set---for #6, 8 & 10 screws</p>
<p>about $20…</p>
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<p>What dose a counter sink bit set have to do with drilling holes for a hinge , they can be used to build cabinet,s and furniture ????? <br/> <br/> <cite>Ken Darga said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/self-centering-drill-bits?xg_source=activity#2900167Comment770575"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p><strong>Vix type self-centering bits</strong></p>
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<p>Bosch 3 pc set---for #6, 8 & 10 screws</p>
<p>about $20</p>
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<p><img src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/711twnUgAaL._SL1500_.jpg" width="234" height="234"/></p>
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<p>Another type by Milescraft</p>
<p>#6, 8, 10 & 12 Screws.</p>
<p>About $10</p>
<p>Less effective than Bosch.</p>
<p>I didn't find this type suitable for cabinet or furniture work.</p>
<p><img src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/613Y2omUSuL._SL1033_.jpg" width="240" height="248"/></p>
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</blockquote> Thank you everyone for the in…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2015-10-24:2900167:Comment:7705802015-10-24T17:54:42.173ZStephanie Hhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/StephanieH
<p>Thank you everyone for the information. I really appreciate it.</p>
<p>Thank you everyone for the information. I really appreciate it.</p> Vix type self-centering bits…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2015-10-24:2900167:Comment:7705752015-10-24T15:23:59.070ZKen Dargahttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/KenDarga
<p><strong>Vix type self-centering bits</strong></p>
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<p>Bosch 3 pc set---for #6, 8 & 10 screws</p>
<p>about $20</p>
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<p><img height="234" src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/711twnUgAaL._SL1500_.jpg" width="234"></img></p>
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<p>Another type by Milescraft</p>
<p>#6, 8, 10 & 12 Screws.</p>
<p>About $10</p>
<p>Less effective than Bosch.</p>
<p>I didn't find this type suitable for cabinet or furniture work.…</p>
<p><img height="248" src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/613Y2omUSuL._SL1033_.jpg" width="240"></img></p>
<p><strong>Vix type self-centering bits</strong></p>
<p></p>
<p>Bosch 3 pc set---for #6, 8 & 10 screws</p>
<p>about $20</p>
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<p><img src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/711twnUgAaL._SL1500_.jpg" width="234" height="234"/></p>
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<p>Another type by Milescraft</p>
<p>#6, 8, 10 & 12 Screws.</p>
<p>About $10</p>
<p>Less effective than Bosch.</p>
<p>I didn't find this type suitable for cabinet or furniture work.</p>
<p><img src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/613Y2omUSuL._SL1033_.jpg" width="240" height="248"/></p> Self centering punch
Place th…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2015-10-24:2900167:Comment:7705722015-10-24T15:11:25.259ZKen Dargahttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/KenDarga
<p><strong>Self centering punch</strong></p>
<p>Place the end of the punch in the countersink hole in the hinge plate---</p>
<p>tap with a hammer tool to make the center-punch mark---</p>
<p>drill applicable hole for the screw.</p>
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<p><img alt="STANLEY - Self-Centering Punch" height="320" src="http://d2pbmlo3fglvvr.cloudfront.net/product/full/Z3Dut_fo5oy.JPG" width="69"></img></p>
<p>The Stanley brand is about $5.</p>
<p>Available in a couple sizes---small and large.</p>
<p>The small one suffices nicely for small hinges, and the like.</p>
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<p>This type tool has been on the market for many years, and the…</p>
<p><strong>Self centering punch</strong></p>
<p>Place the end of the punch in the countersink hole in the hinge plate---</p>
<p>tap with a hammer tool to make the center-punch mark---</p>
<p>drill applicable hole for the screw.</p>
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<p><img src="http://d2pbmlo3fglvvr.cloudfront.net/product/full/Z3Dut_fo5oy.JPG" alt="STANLEY - Self-Centering Punch" width="69" height="320"/></p>
<p>The Stanley brand is about $5.</p>
<p>Available in a couple sizes---small and large.</p>
<p>The small one suffices nicely for small hinges, and the like.</p>
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<p>This type tool has been on the market for many years, and the commonly used before the Vix type bits came on the market.</p>
<p>This tool will suffice nicely for small quantity of marked holes.</p>
<p></p> Brad Point Bits:
The center b…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2015-10-24:2900167:Comment:7705122015-10-24T14:53:38.759ZKen Dargahttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/KenDarga
<p><strong>Brad Point Bits:</strong></p>
<p><span>The center brad point allows accurate positioning and prevents skating.</span></p>
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<p><span><span>Side cutting edges have relieved backs to reduce friction and produce smooth side walls.</span></span></p>
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<p>DeWalt set of 6---1/8 - 1/2"---approx $15 at Home Depot</p>
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<p>Bosch has some nice bits, a 5 piece set for about $20.</p>
<p>These bits have extra wide flutes for fast chip…</p>
<p><strong>Brad Point Bits:</strong></p>
<p><span>The center brad point allows accurate positioning and prevents skating.</span></p>
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<p><span><span>Side cutting edges have relieved backs to reduce friction and produce smooth side walls.</span></span></p>
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<p>DeWalt set of 6---1/8 - 1/2"---approx $15 at Home Depot</p>
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<p><img src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71-dg1QsTuL._SL1500_.jpg" width="324" height="324"/></p>
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<p>Bosch has some nice bits, a 5 piece set for about $20.</p>
<p>These bits have extra wide flutes for fast chip removal</p>
<p><img src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81rRPIo%2BwmL._SL1500_.jpg" width="199" height="391"/></p>
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<p>Rockler 25 piece set---$50</p>
<p>Nice set for the money, with a large selection, of several sizes---1/16 to 1/2"</p>
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<p>I have various sets---the 5-6 piece sets, I have in my load-n-go drills bag.</p>
<p>The larger set I keep in the shop.</p>
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<p>There are various name brand bits & sets on todays market.</p>
<p>Some stores stock individual sizes, which is nice, if you need only certain sizes or to replace broken bit.</p>
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<p>Leevalley Tools offers a variety of sizes---singles or sets---standard and Metric.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?c=&cat=1,180,42240,42247&p=42247" target="_blank">http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?c=&cat=1,180,42240,42247&p=42247</a></p>
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<p>Better quality bits, cost a little more, but they are more accurate, and the point in accurately centered.</p>
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<p>I've bought some less expensive ones, and upon close examination, I found that the tip was not centered accurately, and the cutting spurs were not keenly sharp.</p>
<p>I had to use diamond steel machinists files to sharpen them.</p>
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<p>On one inexpensive 3/8" bit, I found the point to be off by 1/32"--- it wobbled and drilled an inacurrate hole---it was useless.</p>
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<p>I check each drill bit point, so that its centered.</p>
<p>This can be done, by placing the drill bit on a flat surface---place an accurate 6" measuring scale adjacent the tip---slowly rotate the bit to see if the point remains in the same plane.</p>
<p>If there is the slightest of wobble, the bit won't drill accurately.</p>
<p>I also check the spurs on each bits, using a 2X magnifier, for any burrs that need to be removed and resharpened, using the diamond machinists files.</p>
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