Router and Router table - Kreg Owners' Community2024-03-28T09:50:15Zhttps://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/router-and-router-table?id=2900167%3ATopic%3A71894&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHi Ash - Good Luck, I've been…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2010-12-17:2900167:Comment:802282010-12-17T06:03:14.105ZJohn Schabenhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/JohnSchaben
<p>Hi Ash - Good Luck, I've been using the little MLCS benchtop portable table (the one with folding legs) for nearly two years now. Did make a couple of modifications to the fence but other than that it has worked well for me. Good Luck<br/><br/><cite>Ash Parikh said:</cite></p>
<blockquote><div><p>Thanks for all the discussion. I have settled for MLCS Router table and the Dewalt VS Combo for under $400. I am in process of putting everything together.</p>
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<p>Hi Ash - Good Luck, I've been using the little MLCS benchtop portable table (the one with folding legs) for nearly two years now. Did make a couple of modifications to the fence but other than that it has worked well for me. Good Luck<br/><br/><cite>Ash Parikh said:</cite></p>
<blockquote><div><p>Thanks for all the discussion. I have settled for MLCS Router table and the Dewalt VS Combo for under $400. I am in process of putting everything together.</p>
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</blockquote> Thanks for all the discussion…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2010-12-17:2900167:Comment:802192010-12-17T04:43:24.209ZAsh Parikhhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/AshParikh
<p>Thanks for all the discussion. I have settled for MLCS Router table and the Dewalt VS Combo for under $400. I am in process of putting everything together.</p>
<p>Thanks for all the discussion. I have settled for MLCS Router table and the Dewalt VS Combo for under $400. I am in process of putting everything together.</p> Hi Ken - nuthin at all wrong…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2010-12-17:2900167:Comment:802102010-12-17T04:13:29.585ZJohn Schabenhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/JohnSchaben
<p>Hi Ken - nuthin at all wrong with Hitachi stuff. I have their M12VC and it's one sweet little unit. I also have several of their nail guns and just reluctantly upgraded from their 10" compound miter saw. I only upgraded as I needed a slider and got a deal on the new Triton.</p>
<p>Incidentally, I read your previous post about the Bosch running untouched for 3 minutes with no vibration. So happens my new Freud 3000 arrived the next day so I tried that with the 3 1/4 HP Freud and had the same…</p>
<p>Hi Ken - nuthin at all wrong with Hitachi stuff. I have their M12VC and it's one sweet little unit. I also have several of their nail guns and just reluctantly upgraded from their 10" compound miter saw. I only upgraded as I needed a slider and got a deal on the new Triton.</p>
<p>Incidentally, I read your previous post about the Bosch running untouched for 3 minutes with no vibration. So happens my new Freud 3000 arrived the next day so I tried that with the 3 1/4 HP Freud and had the same result. Downside is it won't fit under my benchtop router table so gotta build or buy a new table. <br/><br/><cite>Ken Guenther said:</cite></p>
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<p> I guess I am a bit of a turn coat because I just bought an M12VE Hitachi Router. While I think the new BOSCH router is the greatest, when I compared the $390.00 / $420.00 price tag against KMS's price tag of $229.00 on the Hitachi it wasn't much of a contest! I have a corded Hitachi D10VH 3/8" drill, a DS18DL cordless drill, and a C10FHS SCMS, all of which have given me reall good service.</p>
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I guess I am a bi…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2010-12-17:2900167:Comment:802082010-12-17T03:56:07.376Zkenny from Sundrehttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/KenGuenther
<p>Hello Ash;</p>
<p> I guess I am a bit of a turn coat because I just bought an M12VE Hitachi Router. While I think the new BOSCH router is the greatest, when I compared the $390.00 / $420.00 price tag against KMS's price tag of $229.00 on the Hitachi it wasn't much of a contest! I have a corded Hitachi D10VH 3/8" drill, a DS18DL cordless drill, and a C10FHS SCMS, all of which have given me reall good service.</p>
<p>kenny at Sundre</p>
<p>Hello Ash;</p>
<p> I guess I am a bit of a turn coat because I just bought an M12VE Hitachi Router. While I think the new BOSCH router is the greatest, when I compared the $390.00 / $420.00 price tag against KMS's price tag of $229.00 on the Hitachi it wasn't much of a contest! I have a corded Hitachi D10VH 3/8" drill, a DS18DL cordless drill, and a C10FHS SCMS, all of which have given me reall good service.</p>
<p>kenny at Sundre</p> Ken Guenther said:
Hello Ash…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2010-12-17:2900167:Comment:801952010-12-17T03:46:50.388Zkenny from Sundrehttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/KenGuenther
<p><br/><br/><cite>Ken Guenther said:</cite></p>
<blockquote><div>Hello Ash ;<br/>There are a number of good routers on the market today, the hottest and newest is the Bosch MRC23EVSK. Take a close look at this one, it looks like a super tool. Saw a video where they set the tool, with no bit, on a bench top and let it run at full speed for over 3 minutes. It never moved.<br/>kenny in Sundre, AB.</div>
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<blockquote><div>Hello Ash ;<br/>There are a number of good routers on the market today, the hottest and newest is the Bosch MRC23EVSK. Take a close look at this one, it looks like a super tool. Saw a video where they set the tool, with no bit, on a bench top and let it run at full speed for over 3 minutes. It never moved.<br/>kenny in Sundre, AB.</div>
</blockquote> Gary roofner said:The Craft…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2010-12-02:2900167:Comment:775792010-12-02T12:26:51.140ZJohn Schabenhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/JohnSchaben
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<cite>Gary roofner said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/router-and-router-table?commentId=2900167%3AComment%3A77562&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2900167Comment77562"><div>The Craftsmen are notoris bad rack and pinions slip when adusting hard to adust the jack fixes this problem.<br></br><br></br><cite>John Schaben said:…</cite></div>
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<cite>Gary roofner said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/router-and-router-table?commentId=2900167%3AComment%3A77562&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2900167Comment77562"><div>The Craftsmen are notoris bad rack and pinions slip when adusting hard to adust the jack fixes this problem.<br/><br/><cite>John Schaben said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/router-and-router-table?commentId=2900167%3AComment%3A77436&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2900167Comment77436"><div><br/><br/><cite>Gary roofner said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/router-and-router-table?id=2900167%3ATopic%3A71894&page=2#2900167Comment76959"><div>I have been studying the router table issue. I did not have much money I went with a sears 2hp router found $80 . I found a problem with sears router very poor adjustment<br/>however there are 2 solutions. I didn't know about the second. Here is a picture.<p style="TEXT-ALIGN: left"><img width="721" alt="" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1935439338?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024"/></p>
Another solution is in this link <a href="http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/smarthtml/pages/routraiz.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/smarthtml/pag...</a><br/>Robert had another similar product from Rockler may even the same product.<br/>Actually there is 3 fixes a router lift with a purchase plate.<br/>I had a router table from sears had problems I fixed those however I am probably build my own routertable a portable with a purchase plate because of fence.<br/>I have not made a rasied panel yet probably about as demanding a task performed by a rotertable. I would like the advice of others about needing 3 hp router or is multiple passes with a 2 hp router just as good?</div>
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<br/>Hi Gary - not to sure just what the issue was that you had with the depth setting but that looks like an effective fix.<br/>You can do raised panels just fine with ~2 HP routers, just take some extra cuts. Most I know that do a lot of raised panels will take 3 cuts with a big router, 2 passes to get close and the last pass at 1/64 to clean up. Maybe need one extra pass with a 2HP.</div>
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OK, wasn't sure. Depends on who's making Crapsmans flavor of the year I guess. Not a big Craftsman fan myself. Got one Sears router I inherited from my father and it's such a POS I set it up for dovetails and that's the way it stays. I had heard on other forums that the newer ones were pretty good, that $80 kit being an especially good value. Guess I'm glad I passed on it and went for the Freud. The Craftsmen are notoris bad…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2010-12-02:2900167:Comment:775622010-12-02T05:04:14.252ZGary roofnerhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/Garyyroofner
The Craftsmen are notoris bad rack and pinions slip when adusting hard to adust the jack fixes this problem.<br></br>
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<cite>John Schaben said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/router-and-router-table?commentId=2900167%3AComment%3A77436&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2900167Comment77436"><div><br></br><br></br><cite>Gary roofner said:…</cite></div>
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The Craftsmen are notoris bad rack and pinions slip when adusting hard to adust the jack fixes this problem.<br/>
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<cite>John Schaben said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/router-and-router-table?commentId=2900167%3AComment%3A77436&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2900167Comment77436"><div><br/><br/><cite>Gary roofner said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/router-and-router-table?id=2900167%3ATopic%3A71894&page=2#2900167Comment76959"><div>I have been studying the router table issue. I did not have much money I went with a sears 2hp router found $80 . I found a problem with sears router very poor adjustment<br/>however there are 2 solutions. I didn't know about the second. Here is a picture.<p style="TEXT-ALIGN: left"><img width="721" alt="" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1935439338?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024"/></p>
Another solution is in this link <a href="http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/smarthtml/pages/routraiz.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/smarthtml/pag...</a><br/>Robert had another similar product from Rockler may even the same product.<br/>Actually there is 3 fixes a router lift with a purchase plate.<br/>I had a router table from sears had problems I fixed those however I am probably build my own routertable a portable with a purchase plate because of fence.<br/>I have not made a rasied panel yet probably about as demanding a task performed by a rotertable. I would like the advice of others about needing 3 hp router or is multiple passes with a 2 hp router just as good?</div>
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<br/>Hi Gary - not to sure just what the issue was that you had with the depth setting but that looks like an effective fix.<br/>You can do raised panels just fine with ~2 HP routers, just take some extra cuts. Most I know that do a lot of raised panels will take 3 cuts with a big router, 2 passes to get close and the last pass at 1/64 to clean up. Maybe need one extra pass with a 2HP.</div>
</blockquote> Gary roofner said:I have be…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2010-12-01:2900167:Comment:774362010-12-01T16:46:54.849ZJohn Schabenhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/JohnSchaben
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<cite>Gary roofner said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/router-and-router-table?id=2900167%3ATopic%3A71894&page=2#2900167Comment76959"><div>I have been studying the router table issue. I did not have much money I went with a sears 2hp router found $80 . I found a problem with sears router very poor adjustment<br></br>however there are 2 solutions. I didn't know about the second. Here is a picture.<p style="TEXT-ALIGN: left"><img alt="" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1935439338?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721"></img></p>
Another…</div>
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<cite>Gary roofner said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/router-and-router-table?id=2900167%3ATopic%3A71894&page=2#2900167Comment76959"><div>I have been studying the router table issue. I did not have much money I went with a sears 2hp router found $80 . I found a problem with sears router very poor adjustment<br/>however there are 2 solutions. I didn't know about the second. Here is a picture.<p style="TEXT-ALIGN: left"><img width="721" alt="" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1935439338?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024"/></p>
Another solution is in this link <a href="http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/smarthtml/pages/routraiz.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/smarthtml/pag...</a><br/>Robert had another similar product from Rockler may even the same product.<br/>Actually there is 3 fixes a router lift with a purchase plate.<br/>I had a router table from sears had problems I fixed those however I am probably build my own routertable a portable with a purchase plate because of fence.<br/>I have not made a rasied panel yet probably about as demanding a task performed by a rotertable. I would like the advice of others about needing 3 hp router or is multiple passes with a 2 hp router just as good?</div>
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Hi Gary - not to sure just what the issue was that you had with the depth setting but that looks like an effective fix.<br />
You can do raised panels just fine with ~2 HP routers, just take some extra cuts. Most I know that do a lot of raised panels will take 3 cuts with a big router, 2 passes to get close and the last pass at 1/64 to clean up. Maybe need one extra pass with a 2HP. What you think about PC varia…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2010-12-01:2900167:Comment:772652010-12-01T04:25:33.212ZAsh Parikhhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/AshParikh
What you think about PC variable speed combo like 895PK? I like the power and ease of height adjustment from above the table.<br></br>
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<cite>Harry Tilley said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/router-and-router-table?commentId=2900167%3AComment%3A77226&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2900167Comment74803"><div>Get the big P C router motor only for your table. It will handle any thing you throw at it, especially the big back cutters. Its also variable speed so you have…</div>
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What you think about PC variable speed combo like 895PK? I like the power and ease of height adjustment from above the table.<br/>
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<cite>Harry Tilley said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/router-and-router-table?commentId=2900167%3AComment%3A77226&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2900167Comment74803"><div>Get the big P C router motor only for your table. It will handle any thing you throw at it, especially the big back cutters. Its also variable speed so you have lots of choices on speed. Get a plan and build your own table with Kreg pocket holes.<br/><br/>judget</div>
</blockquote> Reading this thread, I did a…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2010-12-01:2900167:Comment:772262010-12-01T01:06:09.719ZDale Chinnhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/DaleChonn
Reading this thread, I did a quick search and found this discussion on another forum. From what I have read, you can use a 2-1/4 hp router to cut raised panels, but multiple passes and even with a 3+ hp there is general agreement that you should at least two cuts. I have looked at doing raised panels stiles and rails, but have not gotten into it as yet. The cost for a set of raised panel bits can set you back.<br />
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Here is the link to just one discussion (many on the web) on this topic:…
Reading this thread, I did a quick search and found this discussion on another forum. From what I have read, you can use a 2-1/4 hp router to cut raised panels, but multiple passes and even with a 3+ hp there is general agreement that you should at least two cuts. I have looked at doing raised panels stiles and rails, but have not gotten into it as yet. The cost for a set of raised panel bits can set you back.<br />
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Here is the link to just one discussion (many on the web) on this topic:<br />
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