Pin Nailer

[Paul Negus]

I would very much like a pin nailer. Does anyone know any models that are cordless?

Is there something in the design that restricts them to be air powered?

thanks

Paul

[Gary roofner]

I have onlyseen it in air power. 

[Jay Boutwell]

Hi Paul, I don't have any experience with the cordless nailers however  hitachi makes one that is a 1 3/8 23 guage micro pin that is corldess and sells around the hundred dollar bill range.  Mikita makes a 14.4 volt cordless that is called the "LI-LON" the model is BPT350RFE.  It is totally out of reason for price.  In my work I use all air nailers of which have served me well through the years.  My tool of choice is either senco and or bostich of which I own multiple of each.  Wish I could be of more help on the cordless as I have only heard a small bit on them and are too new to really judge their permormance from tool source feedback.

 

Hope you find what you need if you have questions feel free to contact me.

[Paul Negus]

thanks.  I think the Makita is only available in Europe and retails for about $600 - yikes!  i will look for the Hitachi model and see what I can find.  I still don't understand the fundamental engineering issue that would make this difficult for a cordless application

[Jay Boutwell]

Hi paul, after I posted to you it peaked my interest and I found that dewalt is making one as well that is battery and works on a flywheel system.  Here is a link also to makita canada that has some informtion.   http://www.makita.ca/index2.php?event=tool&id=356

Paul Negus said:

thanks.  I think the Makita is only available in Europe and retails for about $600 - yikes!  i will look for the Hitachi model and see what I can find.  I still don't understand the fundamental engineering issue that would make this difficult for a cordless application

[John Schaben]

Hi Jay - If you're referring to the NP35, that's still pneumatic, If you have a link to a Hitachi cordless pinner I would appreciate it. The Makita looks interesting and will be on the lookout for the deWalt. I have a PN100 but a friend of mine has the Hitachi and I kinda wish I had gone that route myself. Longer pins and a nose guard. Just as a side note, those really don't take enough air to warrant a large compressor. Little $50 CH from Wally World would be plenty as long as it can get you 70-90 PSI.

Jay Boutwell said:

Hi Paul, I don't have any experience with the cordless nailers however  hitachi makes one that is a 1 3/8 23 guage micro pin that is corldess and sells around the hundred dollar bill range.  Mikita makes a 14.4 volt cordless that is called the "LI-LON" the model is BPT350RFE.  It is totally out of reason for price.  In my work I use all air nailers of which have served me well through the years.  My tool of choice is either senco and or bostich of which I own multiple of each.  Wish I could be of more help on the cordless as I have only heard a small bit on them and are too new to really judge their permormance from tool source feedback.

 

Hope you find what you need if you have questions feel free to contact me.

[Jay Boutwell]

John I stand corrected, I was thinking of a hitachi NT50GS which is the new brad nailer that fires 5/8" to 2" 18 ga brads.  It sells for around 250.00 and is gas powered.  I read an article somewhere recently where the next big nailgun change will be the cordless type.  I believe I saw this gun on You Tube.

John Schaben said:

Hi Jay - If you're referring to the NP35, that's still pneumatic, If you have a link to a Hitachi cordless pinner I would appreciate it. The Makita looks interesting and will be on the lookout for the deWalt. I have a PN100 but a friend of mine has the Hitachi and I kinda wish I had gone that route myself. Longer pins and a nose guard. Just as a side note, those really don't take enough air to warrant a large compressor. Little $50 CH from Wally World would be plenty as long as it can get you 70-90 PSI.

Jay Boutwell said:

Hi Paul, I don't have any experience with the cordless nailers however  hitachi makes one that is a 1 3/8 23 guage micro pin that is corldess and sells around the hundred dollar bill range.  Mikita makes a 14.4 volt cordless that is called the "LI-LON" the model is BPT350RFE.  It is totally out of reason for price.  In my work I use all air nailers of which have served me well through the years.  My tool of choice is either senco and or bostich of which I own multiple of each.  Wish I could be of more help on the cordless as I have only heard a small bit on them and are too new to really judge their permormance from tool source feedback.

 

Hope you find what you need if you have questions feel free to contact me.

[Ken Darga]

Paul,

The most economical approach is to go with an air driven pin nailer.

 

PC (Porter Cable) offers a nice one, for under $100.  I've used it a lot, and have had no jamming issues.

It's very light weight and compact.  (My 8 yr old grand daughter can use it, with no difficulty).

 

A small compressor, 2 gal size, will suffice nicely for pin and brad nailers---they cost less than $100.

I've found a 2gal size, on sale for $50, one at one of a home centers----it's light weight, takes up little space, and easy to carry around.  A nice unit for small work---also handy for putting air in your tires, and the like.

 

The next size up compresser would be a 4gal pancake size compressor---weighs about 30lbs. My PC unit can keep up with 2 nailers going.  It's a higher hp over the 2gal, and it fills the air tank pretty quick---much faster than the little 2 gal size unit.  PC's pancake style 4 gal size is a very good unit, the BEST on today's market for the money, and will fit the needs for all your pin nailer, brad nailer, finish nailer, and stapler needs---also handy for other air powered tools, such as die grinders, air saws, drills, and the like.

(You'll need are larger tank for running grinders).

 

PC offers the 4 gal pancake style right now at Home Depot for $99---a very good buy and investment.

This model normally runs about $150.

 

You'll find the air driven tools are less costly to the electric equivalent.

 

Air-powered nailers are the way to go, for many tools.

I'm glad I did, and haven't looked back.

 

 

 

[John Schaben]

Actually, Husky (Home Depot house brand) has a 23 guage. My HD is having a package deal on now, 3 guns for $99 and one is the pinner. Didn't pay enough attention to know for sure what the other two were; 18 g brad and framer?. If it is a framer that is one heck of a deal. I don't know much about Husky though. The air tools that came with my compressor are pretty anemic. The 1/2" Impact is certifyably pathetic.

I agree with Jay that the next big move in this area is in the cordless. For me it would have to be in the battery powered ones, I'm not wild about the gas driven things.

[Ken Darga]

IR (Igersoll-Rand) is the BEST in air-driven tools---a little more money over the home center brands, but if one uses air tools at lot, this is the brand to invest in.

http://www.ingersollrandproducts.com/IS/Category.aspx-am_en-10

They don't offer nailers, at this time.

 

I've used IR brand air tools, for over 40 years---they're still working fine. 

My ''die grinders'' and ''air-driven saws'' gets lots of use---for metals, plastics and some wood working.

Rotary stones, files, raps can be used for many tasks.

The air-saw in very handy for cutting many small objects---metal, plastics and wood.

Never have had a problem with any of them.

 

Home depot offers a Rigid brand 1-3/8" pin nailer, for $90.

(My choice is my PC pin-nailer. I fiind that 1" pins are adequate, for most applications/uses).

 

Shop for brands that offer the best warranty and that can be user serviced.

Especially ''o-rings''---they need to get replaced occasionally, especially after long extended uses.

 

Palm nailers are another handy tool, for performing many tasks.  Very handy to use, in limited spaces, where other tools, such as hammers, that won't fit/hard to use---like installing joist hangers/brackets.

 

One of my air-driven palm nailers, has several different interchangeable heads to drive short long nails and brads---another one for driving size 20 spikes and another for  roofing nails---also, a chisel and hammer head.  I have various chisels, for performing tasks in wood and concrete, that fit into the driving head of the palm nailer.

A palm nailer, is an exceptional tool for performing many tasks.

 

Clean your tools after each use---before you put them away.  Blow out the dust particles---grinding and sawing dust will shorten the life of your power tools.

Another ''good'' reason for having a compressor.  Cleaning tools---tips/needles/nozzles, and the like---are offered in a variety of sizes and shapes, and are a must in ones air-tool box.

 

Anyway, buy the best you can afford.

[John Schaben]

"IR (Igersoll-Rand) is the BEST in air-driven tools---a little more money over the home center brands, but if one uses air tools at lot, this is the brand to invest in."

hehehehehe, sounds like the start of a "which is best; blue Ford or red Chevy" conversation. Point is to get as good a quality as practisable. A lot of people recommend the Harbor Freight stuff, personnally, I'm 0 for 3 on their pneumatics.

 

"Clean your tools after each use---before you put them away.  Blow out the dust particles---grinding and sawing dust will shorten the life of your power tools.

Another ''good'' reason for having a compressor.  Cleaning tools---tips/needles/nozzles, and the like---are offered in a variety of sizes and shapes, and are a must in ones air-tool box."

 

I completely support this position. Compressor is especially valuable to me for cleaning my spray painting equipment. lIkely one of the main reasons I get to use my Wagners more than once. :-)

 

Palm nailers, for me right now, are kinda painful to use. Got some hand and wrist issues but there are times nothing else will work. Ken pointed out some excellent examples.

[Paul Negus]

thanks everbody .... lots of research to do this weekend and hopefully some buying!

[Ken Darga]

John,

..."sounds like the start of a "which is best; blue Ford or red Chevy" conversation''.

Not intended to be---I'm just stating my observations and experiences.

Go with what you prefer---it's your decision---you make it, you live with it.

 

When using a palm nailer, for extended periods, I use padded gloves over the padding cover on the palm nailer.

It reduces the vibrations---helps a lot!

 

I've seen a lot of palm nailers, used in the construction trades---very handy for many tasks.

It sure beats swinging a hammer in tight places/close corners.