joining pine - Kreg Owners' Community2024-03-29T07:28:23Zhttps://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/joining-pine?commentId=2900167%3AComment%3A13590&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHello from central TN. I have…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2010-01-11:2900167:Comment:135902010-01-11T02:30:53.590ZHugh Cameronhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/HughCameron
Hello from central TN. I have used the Kreg on two projects and have been very pleased. I did have a problem like Richard when I first got started. I had an ah ha moment watching one of the basic videos. I was using the drill depth gage wrong. I was taking the gage to the tip of the drill rather than to the wider drill section. I was always about a 1/4 inch short and that caused a big problem. Once I started getting it set to the right spot it worked great. I am remodeling bathrooms in an old…
Hello from central TN. I have used the Kreg on two projects and have been very pleased. I did have a problem like Richard when I first got started. I had an ah ha moment watching one of the basic videos. I was using the drill depth gage wrong. I was taking the gage to the tip of the drill rather than to the wider drill section. I was always about a 1/4 inch short and that caused a big problem. Once I started getting it set to the right spot it worked great. I am remodeling bathrooms in an old house we just moved into. The vanities are my next project. good to read everyones tips t…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2010-01-10:2900167:Comment:135542010-01-10T23:03:00.554ZMarc Hintzmanhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/MarcHintzman
good to read everyones tips thanks.<br />
good luck with the work Richard.
good to read everyones tips thanks.<br />
good luck with the work Richard. Hi, Richard.
I have used eve…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2010-01-10:2900167:Comment:135252010-01-10T17:43:52.525ZArt S. Hamiltonhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/ArtSHamilton
Hi, Richard.<br />
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I have used every length of screw, in coarse and fine, across a wide range of materials. I join oak, pine, maple, Western red<br />
cedar, cypress, hemlock, Douglas fir, and both hard and soft plywoods. Sir, I am telling you, beyond any doubt, with thousands<br />
of screws behind me, that this is an almost foolproof system.<br />
Others may be comfortable with reduced torque settings on their drivers, or alternative techniques, but I use an 18 volt Milwaukee<br />
impact driver, capable of 116 FOOT…
Hi, Richard.<br />
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I have used every length of screw, in coarse and fine, across a wide range of materials. I join oak, pine, maple, Western red<br />
cedar, cypress, hemlock, Douglas fir, and both hard and soft plywoods. Sir, I am telling you, beyond any doubt, with thousands<br />
of screws behind me, that this is an almost foolproof system.<br />
Others may be comfortable with reduced torque settings on their drivers, or alternative techniques, but I use an 18 volt Milwaukee<br />
impact driver, capable of 116 FOOT pounds of torque, and have not once stripped a screw. I run the screw in, feathering the<br />
trigger, and it's reliably simply to know when to stop.<br />
Let's say you're running into rock maple, well, the driver is going to rattle all the way in, but, the instant you reach the 'sweet spot'<br />
of torque, the drivers chatter will change a tiny bit in sound, and you instantly stop. You don't offer more little burps to be sure<br />
you're there. Let's say it's Western red cedar, or pine. The driver is not going to rattle much, if at all, and the run-in time is<br />
much faster with the less dense wood. But again, as soon as the first tension is felt, you stop. Now!<br />
The auger point has done all the work for you. Watch how fast the screw is disappearing into the wood, and this wiil clue you<br />
in to the density of the wood. Connect this in your brain to the likely moment that screw has hit bottom, knowing that the flat<br />
washer is now compressing the joint, and stop.<br />
The videos and infomercial are quite truthful. They tell you, and this can't be overstated, that the edges of the wood MUST<br />
be square and parallel. Any accurate little square will confirm this. Don't simply trust what comes from the lumber store,<br />
confirm for yourselt.<br />
The system is as useful and versatile and directly simple to use as in the advertisements. My projects are not simple things<br />
where failure of the joint is no big deal. If I am going to put my hand to building anything, I want it to stay put, period.<br />
Don't give up. Get ahold of some scrap, get the feel on a bunch of test joints of various thicknesses and densities, and you<br />
will become perfect very quickly.<br />
<br />
Good Luck,<br />
Art Pine should be no problem. I…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2010-01-07:2900167:Comment:126612010-01-07T23:00:38.661ZMichael Hritzhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/MichaelHritz
Pine should be no problem. I suspect that the stop collar on your bit may be set to allow it to penetrate too deeply. Check it & try again. Good luck!
Pine should be no problem. I suspect that the stop collar on your bit may be set to allow it to penetrate too deeply. Check it & try again. Good luck! After reading the posts and r…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2009-12-27:2900167:Comment:116802009-12-27T17:53:42.680ZWilliam Chapmanhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/BruceChapman
After reading the posts and replies and drawing from my own early experiences with the Kreg Jig, I have to agree that the screws are being over torqued (over driven) into the soft pine causing the screw holes to be stripped and the ends of the receiving board to split.
After reading the posts and replies and drawing from my own early experiences with the Kreg Jig, I have to agree that the screws are being over torqued (over driven) into the soft pine causing the screw holes to be stripped and the ends of the receiving board to split. NO. I always cut my pieces so…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2009-12-27:2900167:Comment:116722009-12-27T14:57:50.672ZRobert J Guidry Srhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/RobertJGuidrySr
NO. I always cut my pieces so that I am screwing into edge grain. screws strip out more easily in end grain. if you must screw into end grain, be very careful when tightening down not to strip, suggest if possible to change to edge grain.<br />
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<cite>robert schlicht said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/joining-pine?commentId=2900167%3AComment%3A11659&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2900167Comment11659"><div>are you screwing into the end grain on the second piece of…</div>
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NO. I always cut my pieces so that I am screwing into edge grain. screws strip out more easily in end grain. if you must screw into end grain, be very careful when tightening down not to strip, suggest if possible to change to edge grain.<br />
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<cite>robert schlicht said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/joining-pine?commentId=2900167%3AComment%3A11659&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2900167Comment11659"><div>are you screwing into the end grain on the second piece of pine?</div>
</blockquote> are you screwing into the end…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2009-12-27:2900167:Comment:116592009-12-27T00:00:52.659Zrobert schlichthttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/robertschlicht
are you screwing into the end grain on the second piece of pine?
are you screwing into the end grain on the second piece of pine? I have built many cabinets us…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2009-12-21:2900167:Comment:115492009-12-21T16:59:01.549ZRobert J Guidry Srhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/RobertJGuidrySr
I have built many cabinets using pocket hole joints to assemble cabinets and face frames using pine. My current project, consists of 36 cabinets, upper and lower.<br />
Make sure your cuts are square, both surfaces are clamped down tight and the joint is pulled tight when applying the screws and the jig and drill are set at the proper settings. If these are not done right, you tend to tighten down the screws tighter to close the gap and strip the wood making a weeker joint.<br />
Also I have another jig…
I have built many cabinets using pocket hole joints to assemble cabinets and face frames using pine. My current project, consists of 36 cabinets, upper and lower.<br />
Make sure your cuts are square, both surfaces are clamped down tight and the joint is pulled tight when applying the screws and the jig and drill are set at the proper settings. If these are not done right, you tend to tighten down the screws tighter to close the gap and strip the wood making a weeker joint.<br />
Also I have another jig other than the Kreg, and believe me the Kreg is a lot simpler to use and more accurate at putting the screw in the right place.<br />
Since I started using pocket hole joints for assembly I have reduced the amount of clamps needed and cut my time for assembly.<br />
I use a low speed screw gun to apply the screws because i find I have less tendancy to over tighten the screws which I was doing with a drill. Just pull the joint tight, because it is easy to strip the pine. I use a cordless DeWalt and s…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2009-12-21:2900167:Comment:115352009-12-21T04:44:31.535ZJenshttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/Jens
I use a cordless DeWalt and set the clutch to number two and it works perfcto all the time,You have been over torquing the screws<br />
Good luck and happy building
I use a cordless DeWalt and set the clutch to number two and it works perfcto all the time,You have been over torquing the screws<br />
Good luck and happy building Thanks everyone.
I think tha…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2009-12-15:2900167:Comment:113432009-12-15T22:23:05.343ZRichard Harrishttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/RichardHarris
Thanks everyone.<br />
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I think that overtightening is my problem. I've backed off and am getting better results. I'm not sure about using the spacer, I haven't experimented with that yet.<br />
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Perhaps like some of you, this economy has been devastating to my wife and I. We are trying to do thousands of dollars worth of work for hundreds of dollars and have hopes of gaining the skills necessary to remodel our kitchen without professionally made cabinets. I'm a 57 year old former corporate controller and…
Thanks everyone.<br />
<br />
I think that overtightening is my problem. I've backed off and am getting better results. I'm not sure about using the spacer, I haven't experimented with that yet.<br />
<br />
Perhaps like some of you, this economy has been devastating to my wife and I. We are trying to do thousands of dollars worth of work for hundreds of dollars and have hopes of gaining the skills necessary to remodel our kitchen without professionally made cabinets. I'm a 57 year old former corporate controller and tasks that require attention to detail and lots of concentration very much appeal to me. Cabinet making is at least as difficult as being an accountant and those who have mastered the skills neccessary have my admiration. I wish I had started this 20 years ago.<br />
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Thanks again.<br />
Richard