Cut straight when edges aren't - Kreg Owners' Community2024-03-29T11:19:39Zhttps://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/cut-straight-when-edges-aren-t?commentId=2900167%3AComment%3A546774&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noGary roofner said:
I used t…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2013-06-08:2900167:Comment:5467742013-06-08T19:00:15.878ZDino Makropouloshttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/DinoMakropoulos
<p><br></br> <br></br> <cite>Gary roofner said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/cut-straight-when-edges-aren-t?id=2900167%3ATopic%3A526308&page=2#2900167Comment545057"><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I used the wrong name the UEG . <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFziH_ymiOM" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFziH_ymiOM</a> Watch the video there is a rival knife behind the blade.</p>
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<p>Hi Gary,</p>
<p>Looks like a…</p>
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<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Gary roofner said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/cut-straight-when-edges-aren-t?id=2900167%3ATopic%3A526308&page=2#2900167Comment545057"><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I used the wrong name the UEG . <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFziH_ymiOM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFziH_ymiOM</a> Watch the video there is a rival knife behind the blade.</p>
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<p>Hi Gary,</p>
<p>Looks like a riving knife but is much closer to a TS spliter.</p>
<p>Riving knifes flex and they become useless after few bumps.</p>
<p>The FIN is study and eliminates kickbacks.</p>
<p>The same time works like a secondary guide.</p>
<p>holds the cut piece and don't allow the edge guide to move even if you try...</p>
<p>Believe it or not...if you have a straight edge...the cut is better than any tracksaw system.</p>
<p>Aluminum extrusions are straight but is very well known that many people are using the straight edge of the panels to align the guides.</p>
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<p>here is the FIN at work.</p>
<p>and a new design of patented inserts....with a $5.00 old blade.</p>
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<p>The first video shows the FIn and the other shows the antisplintering insert.</p>
<p>enjoy.</p>
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<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://tracksawforum.com/showthread.php?p=32073#post32073">http://tracksawforum.com/showthread.php?p=32073#post32073</a></p>
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<p>ycf dino</p>
<p>eurekazone</p>
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</blockquote> I used the wrong name the UEG…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2013-05-31:2900167:Comment:5450572013-05-31T02:32:04.595ZGary roofnerhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/Garyyroofner
<p>I used the wrong name the UEG . <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFziH_ymiOM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFziH_ymiOM</a> Watch the video there is a rival knife behind the blade.</p>
<p>I used the wrong name the UEG . <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFziH_ymiOM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFziH_ymiOM</a> Watch the video there is a rival knife behind the blade.</p> I would say the contrary the…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2013-05-29:2900167:Comment:5451002013-05-29T21:37:15.671ZGary roofnerhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/Garyyroofner
<p>I would say the contrary the UEW it has a rival knife behind the blade to minimize kickback. The Uew looks a lot like John Schaben homemade jig .</p>
<p>I would say the contrary the UEW it has a rival knife behind the blade to minimize kickback. The Uew looks a lot like John Schaben homemade jig .</p> I've got several of these cla…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2013-05-29:2900167:Comment:5450952013-05-29T14:00:23.487ZJohn Schabenhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/JohnSchaben
<p>I've got several of these clamps, from 24" to 100" that work very well. I can also use some of the shorter ones as temporary fences when the situation arises. Especially on my bandsaw where the stock fence is to tall to get me a narrow cut.…</p>
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<p>I've got several of these clamps, from 24" to 100" that work very well. I can also use some of the shorter ones as temporary fences when the situation arises. Especially on my bandsaw where the stock fence is to tall to get me a narrow cut.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=all+in+one+clamp&tag=googhydr-20&index=tools&hvadid=3114012871&hvpos=1t2&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13556470774945075&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_95imjs8jwl_b" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Clamp guides</a></p>
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<p>Good job avoiding cutting full sheets on the table saw. I don't consider that a safe operation on a full size saw (sans serious infeed, outfeed and side support) much less on a table top.</p> They also sell the Universal…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2013-05-29:2900167:Comment:5449122013-05-29T12:10:52.945ZDino Makropouloshttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/DinoMakropoulos
<p><span>They also sell the Universal Edge Guide to do repeated rips (using the straight edge on the board), but I'll be honest and say that it makes me nervous since the saw could theoretically veer toward the uncut edge. This was the issue I had with my homemade straight edge. </span></p>
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<p><span>ken, the ueg comes with a secondary guide device on the sawbase. We call it the FIN.</span></p>
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<p><span>They also sell the Universal Edge Guide to do repeated rips (using the straight edge on the board), but I'll be honest and say that it makes me nervous since the saw could theoretically veer toward the uncut edge. This was the issue I had with my homemade straight edge. </span></p>
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<p><span>ken, the ueg comes with a secondary guide device on the sawbase. We call it the FIN.</span></p>
<p><span>Even if you try you can't move the saw from the cut line.</span></p>
<p><span>the FIN is a safety device and prevents kickbacks the same time.</span></p>
<p><span>If you have a true straight edge ( All panels are straight but not square) there is no reason to use long tracks of even lift the panel to the table.</span></p>
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<p><span>here is me cutting 3/4" ply with the UEG.</span></p>
<p><span>Enjoy.</span></p>
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<p><span>ycf dino</span></p>
<p><span>eurekazone.</span></p>
</blockquote> I would just clamp the straig…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2013-03-08:2900167:Comment:5275412013-03-08T15:11:26.137ZJerrod McCraryhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/JerrodMcCrary
<p>I would just clamp the straight edge guide on the plywood and make a cut. Then I would use a combination square and place the long side on the freshly cut side and mark your next cut. Once you have the cut marked I would flip the combiation sqaure around so the short side is on the fresh cut side and this will allow you to mark a longer cut line. Then finally I would clamp down the straight edge guide and do the final cut and you should have a 90 degree angle. Then you could do the rest…</p>
<p>I would just clamp the straight edge guide on the plywood and make a cut. Then I would use a combination square and place the long side on the freshly cut side and mark your next cut. Once you have the cut marked I would flip the combiation sqaure around so the short side is on the fresh cut side and this will allow you to mark a longer cut line. Then finally I would clamp down the straight edge guide and do the final cut and you should have a 90 degree angle. Then you could do the rest of the corners and you should have a 4 90 degree corners.</p>
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<p> </p> Mike,
In addition to all this…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2013-03-07:2900167:Comment:5269222013-03-07T18:06:29.082ZAlan Shottshttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/AlanShotts
<p>Mike,</p>
<p>In addition to all this really good advice, I just want to add one thing.</p>
<p>"If I don't have any square corners, Is there a way to square?" This was your question. Remember your Geometry class and the 3, 4, 5 rule. Use any units of 3, 4, and 5 on the sides of a triangle will create a 90 degree angle. Needless to say the more carefully you measure the more accurate it will be, but sometimes this can be useful when working with a sheet of plywood that has been whacked up and…</p>
<p>Mike,</p>
<p>In addition to all this really good advice, I just want to add one thing.</p>
<p>"If I don't have any square corners, Is there a way to square?" This was your question. Remember your Geometry class and the 3, 4, 5 rule. Use any units of 3, 4, and 5 on the sides of a triangle will create a 90 degree angle. Needless to say the more carefully you measure the more accurate it will be, but sometimes this can be useful when working with a sheet of plywood that has been whacked up and you need to start over to get a square corner.</p> Carpenters/framing square
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<p>Carpenters/framing square</p>
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<p>combination square</p>
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<p>Rafter square</p>
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<p>Cabinet makers square</p>
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<p>Adjustable angle square…</p>
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<p>Carpenters/framing square</p>
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<p>combination square</p>
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<p>Rafter square</p>
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<p>Cabinet makers square</p>
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<p>Adjustable angle square</p>
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<p></p> Thanks ken. I will definitely…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2013-03-06:2900167:Comment:5263592013-03-06T01:31:56.458Zmikehttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/mike974
Thanks ken. I will definitely consider your suggestions. I like that you can start small and add to their products as time goes on.<br />
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<cite>Ken Kortch said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/cut-straight-when-edges-aren-t#2900167Comment526594"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>They have a product called a Powerbench. Someday I'd like to have one, but not yet. Think of it as a track saw with a cutting table under it. It can also be used…</p>
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Thanks ken. I will definitely consider your suggestions. I like that you can start small and add to their products as time goes on.<br />
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Thanks again<br />
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<cite>Ken Kortch said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/cut-straight-when-edges-aren-t#2900167Comment526594"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>They have a product called a Powerbench. Someday I'd like to have one, but not yet. Think of it as a track saw with a cutting table under it. It can also be used with routers, jig saws, and other tools - use imagination here.</p>
<p>I had purchased a pre-setup circular saw - with the base already on it, so I didn't attach the base myself. They've modified the base since I bought mine. The newer type is the UEG - also called the "New Smart Base". This new base is intended to make it easier to properly place the circular saw - the plastic tabs make it align to the blade, then you just clamp it, drill holes, and bolt the base down. The instructions seem pretty straight forward to me. If you want them to do it for you I'm sure they'd oblige - for a fee.</p>
<p>To be clear, once you put the saw on the base it stays there. You can use it on the track or add the "off track insert" to use it on its own. </p>
<p>I myself just have their tracks - not the powerbench. They do fine with me. Just connect two tracks with the connectors (don't over tighten - it doesn't take much and the aluminum can dimple), lay the tracks on the plywood, clamp down the clamps, and cut away.</p>
<p>If you have ANY questions, just use the Contact Us link at the top to ask a question. Its a small company based out of Florida and they are pretty quick to reply. They sell kits via Amazon.com. That's probably the route I'd go now. Search for Eurekazone in Amazon. </p>
<p>I'd get the longer 108" double-track to allow you to cut the full length of a sheet of plywood.</p>
<p>They also sell the Universal Edge Guide to do repeated rips (using the straight edge on the board), but I'll be honest and say that it makes me nervous since the saw could theoretically veer toward the uncut edge. This was the issue I had with my homemade straight edge. </p>
<p>I know there are other track makers out there. This is the one I use and I like it. It allowed me to add other stuff slowly. I recently purchase their "super smart clamps" that allow me to do very narrow rips - such as cutting down 1x's and 2x's - and making tapers. </p>
<p>If you want to learn more about how their stuff works follow the resources link on the top of the web site. The instructions are useful. Better yet, go to youtube and search on Eurekazone. They explain a lot.</p>
<p>Sorry for being so wordy here. Just trying to help explain.</p>
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</blockquote> They have a product called a…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2013-03-06:2900167:Comment:5265942013-03-06T00:51:56.188ZKen Kortchhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/KenKortge
<p>They have a product called a Powerbench. Someday I'd like to have one, but not yet. Think of it as a track saw with a cutting table under it. It can also be used with routers, jig saws, and other tools - use imagination here.</p>
<p>I had purchased a pre-setup circular saw - with the base already on it, so I didn't attach the base myself. They've modified the base since I bought mine. The newer type is the UEG - also called the "New Smart Base". This new base is intended to make it easier to…</p>
<p>They have a product called a Powerbench. Someday I'd like to have one, but not yet. Think of it as a track saw with a cutting table under it. It can also be used with routers, jig saws, and other tools - use imagination here.</p>
<p>I had purchased a pre-setup circular saw - with the base already on it, so I didn't attach the base myself. They've modified the base since I bought mine. The newer type is the UEG - also called the "New Smart Base". This new base is intended to make it easier to properly place the circular saw - the plastic tabs make it align to the blade, then you just clamp it, drill holes, and bolt the base down. The instructions seem pretty straight forward to me. If you want them to do it for you I'm sure they'd oblige - for a fee.</p>
<p>To be clear, once you put the saw on the base it stays there. You can use it on the track or add the "off track insert" to use it on its own. </p>
<p>I myself just have their tracks - not the powerbench. They do fine with me. Just connect two tracks with the connectors (don't over tighten - it doesn't take much and the aluminum can dimple), lay the tracks on the plywood, clamp down the clamps, and cut away.</p>
<p>If you have ANY questions, just use the Contact Us link at the top to ask a question. Its a small company based out of Florida and they are pretty quick to reply. They sell kits via Amazon.com. That's probably the route I'd go now. Search for Eurekazone in Amazon. </p>
<p>I'd get the longer 108" double-track to allow you to cut the full length of a sheet of plywood.</p>
<p>They also sell the Universal Edge Guide to do repeated rips (using the straight edge on the board), but I'll be honest and say that it makes me nervous since the saw could theoretically veer toward the uncut edge. This was the issue I had with my homemade straight edge. </p>
<p>I know there are other track makers out there. This is the one I use and I like it. It allowed me to add other stuff slowly. I recently purchase their "super smart clamps" that allow me to do very narrow rips - such as cutting down 1x's and 2x's - and making tapers. </p>
<p>If you want to learn more about how their stuff works follow the resources link on the top of the web site. The instructions are useful. Better yet, go to youtube and search on Eurekazone. They explain a lot.</p>
<p>Sorry for being so wordy here. Just trying to help explain.</p>