Covering Plywood Edges and Surface Finishing - Kreg Owners' Community2024-03-29T16:02:44Zhttps://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/covering-plywood-edges-and-surface-finishing?commentId=2900167%3AComment%3A710023&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThanks to all the advice. I'v…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2015-03-06:2900167:Comment:7146922015-03-06T16:51:30.424ZJohanne Perezhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/JohannePerez
<p>Thanks to all the advice. I've gotten my hands on some 5/8" wide x 1/4 " wood strips. They seem to fit great. I'll try and post some pics of how they look. </p>
<p>Thanks to all the advice. I've gotten my hands on some 5/8" wide x 1/4 " wood strips. They seem to fit great. I'll try and post some pics of how they look. </p> Not to beat a dead horse but…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2015-03-06:2900167:Comment:7146862015-03-06T14:52:38.773ZJames P. Cottinghamhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/JamesPCottingham
<p>Not to beat a dead horse but Start Woodworking has <a href="http://www.startwoodworking.com/post/hardwood-edging%E2%80%94twice-fast?utm_source=email&utm_medium=eletter&utm_content=sw_eletter&utm_campaign=start-woodworking-eletter" target="_blank">an article on hardwood edging.</a></p>
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<p>Not to beat a dead horse but Start Woodworking has <a href="http://www.startwoodworking.com/post/hardwood-edging%E2%80%94twice-fast?utm_source=email&utm_medium=eletter&utm_content=sw_eletter&utm_campaign=start-woodworking-eletter" target="_blank">an article on hardwood edging.</a></p>
<p></p> For the cabinets in the shop…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2015-03-04:2900167:Comment:7137622015-03-04T05:56:17.050ZTim Gracehttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/TimGrace26
<p>For the cabinets in the shop - not works of art by any stretch - I glued and finish nailed the off-cuts from edge squaring the face frame boards. I only had to do the permanently attached center shelf, every other edge in the cabinet was covered by the face frame. The off-cuts matched the thickness of the plywood perfectly and hide the plies.</p>
<p>For the cabinets in the shop - not works of art by any stretch - I glued and finish nailed the off-cuts from edge squaring the face frame boards. I only had to do the permanently attached center shelf, every other edge in the cabinet was covered by the face frame. The off-cuts matched the thickness of the plywood perfectly and hide the plies.</p> Thanks Ken.
Great stuff; app…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2015-02-26:2900167:Comment:7121492015-02-26T13:48:06.439ZJohanne Perezhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/JohannePerez
<p>Thanks Ken. </p>
<p>Great stuff; appreciate it. Really help me visualize the edge-banding methods. <br></br> <br></br> <cite>Ken Darga said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/covering-plywood-edges-and-surface-finishing?commentId=2900167%3AComment%3A711360&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2900167Comment711530"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Edge covering options:</p>
<p>A. Router bits to make profile cuts on router table…</p>
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<p>Thanks Ken. </p>
<p>Great stuff; appreciate it. Really help me visualize the edge-banding methods. <br/> <br/> <cite>Ken Darga said:</cite></p>
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<p>A. Router bits to make profile cuts on router table</p>
<p><img src="http://www.toolstoday.com/images/Product/medium/5898.jpg" width="318" height="169"/> </p>
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<p><b><br/></b>B. Various edge banding</p>
<p><img src="http://www.woodcraft.com/Images/family/web20708big.jpg" width="422" height="286"/></p>
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<p>C. Edge shelf spline joinery</p>
<p><img src="http://cdn3.craftsy.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/plywood-banding.jpg" width="373" height="212"/></p>
<p><img src="http://www.woodbin.com/calcs/ShelfAndEdging.gif" width="376" height="376"/></p>
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<p><img src="http://image.slidesharecdn.com/ez-bookcase-planner-sample-120421124513-phpapp01/95/bookcase-plans-guide-to-shelf-span-3-728.jpg?cb=1335030679" width="593" height="459"/></p>
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<p>E. Mitered edge</p>
<p><img src="http://www.woodweb.com/knowledge_base_images/ms/edge_treatment_for_aromatic_cedar.gif"/></p>
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<p>F. Edge banding at corners to cover plywood edges</p>
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</blockquote> Got it; that's a great idea. …tag:kregjig.ning.com,2015-02-26:2900167:Comment:7120382015-02-26T13:45:32.142ZJohanne Perezhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/JohannePerez
<p>Got it; that's a great idea. </p>
<p>Thanks!<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Jay Boutwell said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/covering-plywood-edges-and-surface-finishing?commentId=2900167%3AComment%3A711360&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2900167Comment711360"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>what I am refering to is to cut a pice of solid wood of which is the the normal 3/4 inch thick and I cut it so that it is 1 &1/4 inch and sometimes at 1 &1/2 inch thick…</p>
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<p>Got it; that's a great idea. </p>
<p>Thanks!<br/> <br/> <cite>Jay Boutwell said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/covering-plywood-edges-and-surface-finishing?commentId=2900167%3AComment%3A711360&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2900167Comment711360"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>what I am refering to is to cut a pice of solid wood of which is the the normal 3/4 inch thick and I cut it so that it is 1 &1/4 inch and sometimes at 1 &1/2 inch thick and add this to the front of the shelf. I do this</p>
<p> rather than to cut it so it is 3/4" thick. That way I can add it to the front of the shelf making the shelf appear thicker. This makes the front of the shelf a lot more resistant to bowing. In doing this you will need to cut the shelf 3/4 inch less that you would need it as the 3/4 inch added to it makes it too deep. With the extra thickness added to the shelf you can use the kreg pocket hole method of attaching the band.<br/><br/>With the tape method you are only covering the shelf edge. It is not my favorite method of just adding a 1/4 inch thick piece of wood to the front if I and do it the other way. However I will elect to use the 1/4 inch thick wood rather that use tape.</p>
<blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/covering-plywood-edges-and-surface-finishing?commentId=2900167%3AComment%3A711358&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2900167Comment711358"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Thanks for the information. I'll check the wood depot and see what they offer. </p>
<p>What did you mean by: "<span>It is my desired practice to <span>cut the edge 3/4 thick and 1& 1/4 to 1& 1/2 inch wide."?</span></span></p>
<p>If possible do you have before and after pictures?</p>
<p>Thanks again. </p>
<p><br/><cite>Jay Boutwell said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/covering-plywood-edges-and-surface-finishing?commentId=2900167%3AComment%3A711406&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2900167Comment711406"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi Johanne, I am not too big on using the iron on tape method as eventually they will fail. I will use a solid wood edge of about a 1/4 inch thick and will use a and plane and sandpaper to make the final sizing of the edge if I am making it the same thickness as the shelf. I attach it with glue and a micro pin. </p>
<p> The best method is to use a thicker piece to strengthen the front of the shelf and glue and a kreg pocket screw. Even in most cabinet building projects you are doing yourself a big favor by making the shelf front thicker as eventually they will sag in the middle and this is one method of helping to prevent this. It is my desired practice to cut the edge 3/4 thick and 1& 1/4 to 1& 1/2 inch wide. </p>
<p>In building furniture it actually a stronger shelf but will look better in the long run. It is something that will cheapen your project if you build a nice cabinet and or piece of furniture and then make a cheap shelf and is a kin to using walnut and or other fine wood to build the case and then use a particle board product for the shelving.</p>
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<p>While on the subject here is a trick I use when putting the bands on to the shelf. I will place a bout 2 layers of newspaper of similar thickness under the shelf part that is being banded. With the shelf on a flat solid surface you can apply pressure down on the piece and then lay the band on the surface that is not covered with paper and then attach band to the shelf. the thickness will place the upper edge of the band very near and flat to the upper surface. Finish with a hand plane and or sandpaper. It is much more accurate and easier that just trying to line it up by eye.</p>
<p>Another way I often band shelves is by using a router and a spline.</p>
<p>I have some bits that I use and on anything that is a high grade build I will spline the band to the shelf. </p>
<p>There s also some bits of which is made for banding shelves of which are a specialty bit and cost around 180.00 a set The consist of two separate bits and cut a "V" notch into shelf material and a matching point on the solid wood band. These are glued to he shelf and are incredible strong. They are available at Eagle America. A bit pricey for the hobby type woodworker but if you build a lot of shelving they would be worth the investment.</p>
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</blockquote> The diagram of the bits that…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2015-02-24:2900167:Comment:7115522015-02-24T14:33:52.785ZJay Boutwellhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/JayBoutwell
<p>The diagram of the bits that Ken shows in his comment depicted in figure "A" is the same bits that I mentioned in my post and are available at Eagle America. The others depictions are the methods that I was talking about in my post.</p>
<p>It makes it a simple process and are much better methods that using the iron on tape. Thanks Ken for finding some examples. </p>
<p>The diagram of the bits that Ken shows in his comment depicted in figure "A" is the same bits that I mentioned in my post and are available at Eagle America. The others depictions are the methods that I was talking about in my post.</p>
<p>It makes it a simple process and are much better methods that using the iron on tape. Thanks Ken for finding some examples. </p> Edge covering options:
A. Ro…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2015-02-24:2900167:Comment:7115302015-02-24T04:58:40.435ZKen Dargahttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/KenDarga
<p>Edge covering options:</p>
<p>A. Router bits to make profile cuts on router table</p>
<p><img height="169" src="http://www.toolstoday.com/images/Product/medium/5898.jpg" width="318"></img> </p>
<p></p>
<p><b><br></br></b>B. Various edge banding</p>
<p><img height="286" src="http://www.woodcraft.com/Images/family/web20708big.jpg" width="422"></img></p>
<p></p>
<p>C. Edge shelf spline joinery</p>
<p><img height="212" src="http://cdn3.craftsy.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/plywood-banding.jpg" width="373"></img></p>
<p><img height="376" src="http://www.woodbin.com/calcs/ShelfAndEdging.gif" width="376"></img></p>
<p>D. </p>
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<p><img height="459" src="http://image.slidesharecdn.com/ez-bookcase-planner-sample-120421124513-phpapp01/95/bookcase-plans-guide-to-shelf-span-3-728.jpg?cb=1335030679" width="593"></img></p>
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<p>E. Mitered edge</p>
<p><img src="http://www.woodweb.com/knowledge_base_images/ms/edge_treatment_for_aromatic_cedar.gif"></img></p>
<p></p>
<p>F. Edge banding at corners to cover plywood edges…</p>
<p><img height="305" src="http://bradleyscabinetshop.com/images/ent_centers/MontoyaCorner4283.jpg" width="407"></img></p>
<p>Edge covering options:</p>
<p>A. Router bits to make profile cuts on router table</p>
<p><img src="http://www.toolstoday.com/images/Product/medium/5898.jpg" width="318" height="169"/> </p>
<p></p>
<p><b><br/></b>B. Various edge banding</p>
<p><img src="http://www.woodcraft.com/Images/family/web20708big.jpg" width="422" height="286"/></p>
<p></p>
<p>C. Edge shelf spline joinery</p>
<p><img src="http://cdn3.craftsy.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/plywood-banding.jpg" width="373" height="212"/></p>
<p><img src="http://www.woodbin.com/calcs/ShelfAndEdging.gif" width="376" height="376"/></p>
<p>D. </p>
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<p><img src="http://image.slidesharecdn.com/ez-bookcase-planner-sample-120421124513-phpapp01/95/bookcase-plans-guide-to-shelf-span-3-728.jpg?cb=1335030679" width="593" height="459"/></p>
<p></p>
<p>E. Mitered edge</p>
<p><img src="http://www.woodweb.com/knowledge_base_images/ms/edge_treatment_for_aromatic_cedar.gif"/></p>
<p></p>
<p>F. Edge banding at corners to cover plywood edges</p>
<p><img src="http://bradleyscabinetshop.com/images/ent_centers/MontoyaCorner4283.jpg" width="407" height="305"/></p>
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<p></p> what I am refering to is to c…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2015-02-24:2900167:Comment:7113602015-02-24T03:40:16.098ZJay Boutwellhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/JayBoutwell
<p>what I am refering to is to cut a pice of solid wood of which is the the normal 3/4 inch thick and I cut it so that it is 1 &1/4 inch and sometimes at 1 &1/2 inch thick and add this to the front of the shelf. I do this</p>
<p> rather than to cut it so it is 3/4" thick. That way I can add it to the front of the shelf making the shelf appear thicker. This makes the front of the shelf a lot more resistant to bowing. In doing this you will need to cut the shelf 3/4 inch less that you…</p>
<p>what I am refering to is to cut a pice of solid wood of which is the the normal 3/4 inch thick and I cut it so that it is 1 &1/4 inch and sometimes at 1 &1/2 inch thick and add this to the front of the shelf. I do this</p>
<p> rather than to cut it so it is 3/4" thick. That way I can add it to the front of the shelf making the shelf appear thicker. This makes the front of the shelf a lot more resistant to bowing. In doing this you will need to cut the shelf 3/4 inch less that you would need it as the 3/4 inch added to it makes it too deep. With the extra thickness added to the shelf you can use the kreg pocket hole method of attaching the band.<br/><br/>With the tape method you are only covering the shelf edge. It is not my favorite method of just adding a 1/4 inch thick piece of wood to the front if I and do it the other way. However I will elect to use the 1/4 inch thick wood rather that use tape.</p>
<blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/covering-plywood-edges-and-surface-finishing?commentId=2900167%3AComment%3A711358&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2900167Comment711358"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Thanks for the information. I'll check the wood depot and see what they offer. </p>
<p>What did you mean by: "<span>It is my desired practice to <span>cut the edge 3/4 thick and 1& 1/4 to 1& 1/2 inch wide."?</span></span></p>
<p>If possible do you have before and after pictures?</p>
<p>Thanks again. </p>
<p><br/><cite>Jay Boutwell said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/covering-plywood-edges-and-surface-finishing?commentId=2900167%3AComment%3A711406&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2900167Comment711406"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi Johanne, I am not too big on using the iron on tape method as eventually they will fail. I will use a solid wood edge of about a 1/4 inch thick and will use a and plane and sandpaper to make the final sizing of the edge if I am making it the same thickness as the shelf. I attach it with glue and a micro pin. </p>
<p> The best method is to use a thicker piece to strengthen the front of the shelf and glue and a kreg pocket screw. Even in most cabinet building projects you are doing yourself a big favor by making the shelf front thicker as eventually they will sag in the middle and this is one method of helping to prevent this. It is my desired practice to cut the edge 3/4 thick and 1& 1/4 to 1& 1/2 inch wide. </p>
<p>In building furniture it actually a stronger shelf but will look better in the long run. It is something that will cheapen your project if you build a nice cabinet and or piece of furniture and then make a cheap shelf and is a kin to using walnut and or other fine wood to build the case and then use a particle board product for the shelving.</p>
<p></p>
<p>While on the subject here is a trick I use when putting the bands on to the shelf. I will place a bout 2 layers of newspaper of similar thickness under the shelf part that is being banded. With the shelf on a flat solid surface you can apply pressure down on the piece and then lay the band on the surface that is not covered with paper and then attach band to the shelf. the thickness will place the upper edge of the band very near and flat to the upper surface. Finish with a hand plane and or sandpaper. It is much more accurate and easier that just trying to line it up by eye.</p>
<p>Another way I often band shelves is by using a router and a spline.</p>
<p>I have some bits that I use and on anything that is a high grade build I will spline the band to the shelf. </p>
<p>There s also some bits of which is made for banding shelves of which are a specialty bit and cost around 180.00 a set The consist of two separate bits and cut a "V" notch into shelf material and a matching point on the solid wood band. These are glued to he shelf and are incredible strong. They are available at Eagle America. A bit pricey for the hobby type woodworker but if you build a lot of shelving they would be worth the investment.</p>
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</blockquote> Thanks for the information. I…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2015-02-24:2900167:Comment:7113582015-02-24T02:30:42.378ZJohanne Perezhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/JohannePerez
<p>Thanks for the information. I'll check the wood depot and see what they offer. </p>
<p>What did you mean by: "<span>It is my desired practice to <span>cut the edge 3/4 thick and 1& 1/4 to 1& 1/2 inch wide."?</span></span></p>
<p>If possible do you have before and after pictures?</p>
<p>Thanks again. </p>
<p><br></br> <cite>Jay Boutwell said:…</cite></p>
<p>Thanks for the information. I'll check the wood depot and see what they offer. </p>
<p>What did you mean by: "<span>It is my desired practice to <span>cut the edge 3/4 thick and 1& 1/4 to 1& 1/2 inch wide."?</span></span></p>
<p>If possible do you have before and after pictures?</p>
<p>Thanks again. </p>
<p><br/> <cite>Jay Boutwell said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/covering-plywood-edges-and-surface-finishing?commentId=2900167%3AComment%3A711406&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2900167Comment711406"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi Johanne, I am not too big on using the iron on tape method as eventually they will fail. I will use a solid wood edge of about a 1/4 inch thick and will use a and plane and sandpaper to make the final sizing of the edge if I am making it the same thickness as the shelf. I attach it with glue and a micro pin. </p>
<p> The best method is to use a thicker piece to strengthen the front of the shelf and glue and a kreg pocket screw. Even in most cabinet building projects you are doing yourself a big favor by making the shelf front thicker as eventually they will sag in the middle and this is one method of helping to prevent this. It is my desired practice to cut the edge 3/4 thick and 1& 1/4 to 1& 1/2 inch wide. </p>
<p>In building furniture it actually a stronger shelf but will look better in the long run. It is something that will cheapen your project if you build a nice cabinet and or piece of furniture and then make a cheap shelf and is a kin to using walnut and or other fine wood to build the case and then use a particle board product for the shelving.</p>
<p></p>
<p>While on the subject here is a trick I use when putting the bands on to the shelf. I will place a bout 2 layers of newspaper of similar thickness under the shelf part that is being banded. With the shelf on a flat solid surface you can apply pressure down on the piece and then lay the band on the surface that is not covered with paper and then attach band to the shelf. the thickness will place the upper edge of the band very near and flat to the upper surface. Finish with a hand plane and or sandpaper. It is much more accurate and easier that just trying to line it up by eye.</p>
<p>Another way I often band shelves is by using a router and a spline.</p>
<p>I have some bits that I use and on anything that is a high grade build I will spline the band to the shelf. </p>
<p>There s also some bits of which is made for banding shelves of which are a specialty bit and cost around 180.00 a set The consist of two separate bits and cut a "V" notch into shelf material and a matching point on the solid wood band. These are glued to he shelf and are incredible strong. They are available at Eagle America. A bit pricey for the hobby type woodworker but if you build a lot of shelving they would be worth the investment.</p>
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</blockquote> Hi Johanne, I am not too big…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2015-02-23:2900167:Comment:7114062015-02-23T16:14:37.458ZJay Boutwellhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/JayBoutwell
<p>Hi Johanne, I am not too big on using the iron on tape method as eventually they will fail. I will use a solid wood edge of about a 1/4 inch thick and will use a and plane and sandpaper to make the final sizing of the edge if I am making it the same thickness as the shelf. I attach it with glue and a micro pin. </p>
<p> The best method is to use a thicker piece to strengthen the front of the shelf and glue and a kreg pocket screw. Even in most cabinet building projects you are doing…</p>
<p>Hi Johanne, I am not too big on using the iron on tape method as eventually they will fail. I will use a solid wood edge of about a 1/4 inch thick and will use a and plane and sandpaper to make the final sizing of the edge if I am making it the same thickness as the shelf. I attach it with glue and a micro pin. </p>
<p> The best method is to use a thicker piece to strengthen the front of the shelf and glue and a kreg pocket screw. Even in most cabinet building projects you are doing yourself a big favor by making the shelf front thicker as eventually they will sag in the middle and this is one method of helping to prevent this. It is my desired practice to cut the edge 3/4 thick and 1& 1/4 to 1& 1/2 inch wide. </p>
<p>In building furniture it actually a stronger shelf but will look better in the long run. It is something that will cheapen your project if you build a nice cabinet and or piece of furniture and then make a cheap shelf and is a kin to using walnut and or other fine wood to build the case and then use a particle board product for the shelving.</p>
<p></p>
<p>While on the subject here is a trick I use when putting the bands on to the shelf. I will place a bout 2 layers of newspaper of similar thickness under the shelf part that is being banded. With the shelf on a flat solid surface you can apply pressure down on the piece and then lay the band on the surface that is not covered with paper and then attach band to the shelf. the thickness will place the upper edge of the band very near and flat to the upper surface. Finish with a hand plane and or sandpaper. It is much more accurate and easier that just trying to line it up by eye.</p>
<p>Another way I often band shelves is by using a router and a spline.</p>
<p>I have some bits that I use and on anything that is a high grade build I will spline the band to the shelf. </p>
<p>There s also some bits of which is made for banding shelves of which are a specialty bit and cost around 180.00 a set The consist of two separate bits and cut a "V" notch into shelf material and a matching point on the solid wood band. These are glued to he shelf and are incredible strong. They are available at Eagle America. A bit pricey for the hobby type woodworker but if you build a lot of shelving they would be worth the investment.</p>