Black paint finish - Kreg Owners' Community2024-03-28T09:51:59Zhttps://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/black-paint-finish?commentId=2900167%3AComment%3A880272&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noTry a General Stain it works…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2017-04-14:2900167:Comment:8802722017-04-14T22:22:51.333ZKirby Bradleyhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/KirbyBradley
<p>Try a General Stain it works very well. It is available through Lee Valley in Canada, not sure where you are. </p>
<p>Try a General Stain it works very well. It is available through Lee Valley in Canada, not sure where you are. </p> I recently had the same quest…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2017-04-08:2900167:Comment:8791102017-04-08T17:17:42.338ZBrian Johnsonhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/BrianJohnson5
<p>I recently had the same question regarding staining birch plywood a deep black color.</p>
<p></p>
<p>The research I did led me to try black leather dye. This dye in fact. <a href="https://amazon.com/Fiebings-USMC-Black-Leather-32oz/dp/B00AO6LRFW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491671520&sr=8-1&keywords=Fiebing%27s+USMC+Black+Leather+Dye+32oz" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://amazon.com/Fiebings-USMC-Black-Leather-32oz/dp/B00AO6LRFW/r...</a></p>
<p></p>
<p>Worked wonderfully! The…</p>
<p>I recently had the same question regarding staining birch plywood a deep black color.</p>
<p></p>
<p>The research I did led me to try black leather dye. This dye in fact. <a href="https://amazon.com/Fiebings-USMC-Black-Leather-32oz/dp/B00AO6LRFW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491671520&sr=8-1&keywords=Fiebing%27s+USMC+Black+Leather+Dye+32oz" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://amazon.com/Fiebings-USMC-Black-Leather-32oz/dp/B00AO6LRFW/r...</a></p>
<p></p>
<p>Worked wonderfully! The blackest black color I've ever used. Doesn't raise the grain. A little went a long way. Used a foam brush. Had no problem with overlap strokes showing up.</p>
<p></p>
<p>The pics are of an equatorial platform for a large telescope.</p> Bill,
RE "Black stain"---it's…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2017-02-04:2900167:Comment:8678462017-02-04T18:21:28.392ZKen Dargahttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/KenDarga
<p>Bill,</p>
<p>RE "Black stain"---it's like a "dye-like" material---</p>
<p>it <strong>will not</strong> cover the imperfections and color variations in poplar wood.</p>
<p>The variations will be visible when a varnish like material is applied over the black stain.</p>
<p></p>
<p><strong>Beeswax</strong>---</p>
<p>is a paste-like material.</p>
<p>It's a waxy sticky substance.</p>
<p>I wouldn't use or recommend it, for your application.</p>
<p></p>
<p>The wax will attract and hold dust/dirt…</p>
<p>Bill,</p>
<p>RE "Black stain"---it's like a "dye-like" material---</p>
<p>it <strong>will not</strong> cover the imperfections and color variations in poplar wood.</p>
<p>The variations will be visible when a varnish like material is applied over the black stain.</p>
<p></p>
<p><strong>Beeswax</strong>---</p>
<p>is a paste-like material.</p>
<p>It's a waxy sticky substance.</p>
<p>I wouldn't use or recommend it, for your application.</p>
<p></p>
<p>The wax will attract and hold dust/dirt particles, </p>
<p>and be difficult to maintain a clean-like surface.</p>
<p></p>
<p>Before using beeswax on your finished product,</p>
<p>make some sample test pieces, so as to see for yourself the problems you'll run into.</p>
<p></p>
<p></p>
<p></p>
<p></p>
<p></p>
<p></p>
<p></p>
<p></p>
<p></p>
<p></p>
<p></p> You're welcome Bill. practice…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2017-02-04:2900167:Comment:8677482017-02-04T16:47:27.177ZNick Rutterhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/NickRutter
<p>You're welcome Bill. practice on some off cuts, you'll soon get it mate,</p>
<p>Good luck, we look forward to the pics.</p>
<p>You're welcome Bill. practice on some off cuts, you'll soon get it mate,</p>
<p>Good luck, we look forward to the pics.</p> Thank you Tim, Nick and Ken.…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2017-02-04:2900167:Comment:8677412017-02-04T14:10:04.261ZBill Biancohttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/BillB899
<p>Thank you Tim, Nick and Ken. Your input has certainly pointed out gaps in my knowledge. With your input I think I should be able to get this at least 'pretty good'. I'll probably post the project in about a month (would like to get it sooner, but playing in the garage unfortunately is not my main occupation).</p>
<p>Thank you Tim, Nick and Ken. Your input has certainly pointed out gaps in my knowledge. With your input I think I should be able to get this at least 'pretty good'. I'll probably post the project in about a month (would like to get it sooner, but playing in the garage unfortunately is not my main occupation).</p> Zinsser makes very good produ…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2017-02-02:2900167:Comment:8658022017-02-02T13:45:32.788ZKen Dargahttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/KenDarga
<p>Zinsser makes very good products</p>
<p></p>
<p>1. <strong>Sealer</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://sevenspaint.com/docs/tds/Zin%20clear%20shellac.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://sevenspaint.com/docs/tds/Zin%20clear%20shellac.pdf</a></p>
<p></p>
<p>2. <strong>Primer-sealer</strong></p>
<p><span>nothing is better at permanently blocking stains and wood knots</span></p>
<p><span><span>Works with any top coat.…</span></span></p>
<p></p>
<p>Zinsser makes very good products</p>
<p></p>
<p>1. <strong>Sealer</strong></p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://sevenspaint.com/docs/tds/Zin%20clear%20shellac.pdf" target="_blank">http://sevenspaint.com/docs/tds/Zin%20clear%20shellac.pdf</a></p>
<p></p>
<p>2. <strong>Primer-sealer</strong></p>
<p><span>nothing is better at permanently blocking stains and wood knots</span></p>
<p><span><span>Works with any top coat.</span></span></p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.rustoleum.com/product-catalog/consumer-brands/zinsser/primer-sealers/b-i-n-shellac-base-primer" target="_blank">https://www.rustoleum.com/product-catalog/consumer-brands/zinsser/p...</a></p>
<p></p>
<p>I use the primer-sealer on wood before applying the paint, </p>
<p>so as to obtain a evenly finished top coat.</p>
<p></p>
<p>I sand using <strong>220grit</strong>, before applying the primer-sealer.</p>
<p><em>Remove all sanding dust</em> before applying the sealer.</p>
<p></p>
<p>Poplar is a porous material that is uneven in color.</p>
<p>Some areas of poplar is a greenish color.</p>
<p>Without a primer-sealer, you won't get an even finished color.</p>
<p></p>
<p>NOTE: some black stains <strong>will not</strong> produce a evenly colored finished surface.</p>
<p></p>
<p><strong>TOP COAT</strong></p>
<p>Thin the 1st coat of paint with a 25% cut.</p>
<p>I want the first layer coat to be a thin film.</p>
<p></p>
<p><strong>NOTE</strong>: If spray painting, use a spray booth.</p>
<p>A simple suitable size spray booth can be a wall(s) of cardboard; such as a cardboard box from a large appliance, plastic drop cloth, or the like.</p>
<p></p>
<p></p>
<p></p>
<p></p> You could use an Ebony wood s…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2017-02-02:2900167:Comment:8657082017-02-02T08:26:42.080ZNick Rutterhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/NickRutter
<p>You could use an Ebony wood stain followed by a couple of coats of clear varnish. It would look mega.</p>
<p>Google "BLACK FRIARS", their wood stains are fantastic. </p>
<p>You can use a beeswax instead of varnish too if you prefer.</p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
<p>You could use an Ebony wood stain followed by a couple of coats of clear varnish. It would look mega.</p>
<p>Google "BLACK FRIARS", their wood stains are fantastic. </p>
<p>You can use a beeswax instead of varnish too if you prefer.</p>
<p>Good luck.</p> I have tried a black stain fo…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2017-02-02:2900167:Comment:8655362017-02-02T04:49:19.266ZTim Gracehttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/TimGrace26
<p>I have tried a black stain for a small project. It worked Ok, but I wasn't looking for a high gloss on it.</p>
<p>I have sprayed a flat black (Mickey mouse band saw box) on pine using Rustoleum High Performance spray, and it worked better than I had anticipated, especially on pine with no seal coat below the paint.</p>
<p>Working with poplar I think I would sand to 320 grit. Raise the grain and lightly sand at 320 again. Use a good sealer (a couple of light coats of dewaxed shellac). Scuff…</p>
<p>I have tried a black stain for a small project. It worked Ok, but I wasn't looking for a high gloss on it.</p>
<p>I have sprayed a flat black (Mickey mouse band saw box) on pine using Rustoleum High Performance spray, and it worked better than I had anticipated, especially on pine with no seal coat below the paint.</p>
<p>Working with poplar I think I would sand to 320 grit. Raise the grain and lightly sand at 320 again. Use a good sealer (a couple of light coats of dewaxed shellac). Scuff with scotch bright. Then lightly spray with your black paint. Use many light coats with a scuff between coats.</p>
<p></p>