Bad marketing. - Kreg Owners' Community2024-03-29T16:00:06Zhttps://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/bad-marketing?commentId=2900167%3AComment%3A521785&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=no I think that Kreg built the…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2013-02-14:2900167:Comment:5217852013-02-14T16:39:11.821ZLesleehttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/Leslee
<p> I think that Kreg built the pocket jig years ago to help him make his own cabinets for his house. He wanted to make them his own at the time when back in the '70s. The cabinets were built by big shops and Kreg thought up the simple jig to bring it to the woodworker that is in the smaller shops and garages. You might say bad marketing but, at the time it made good sense. Are you going to tell me that you wouldn't buy a jig to simplify your work in your shop. I am not a spokeswoman for Kreg…</p>
<p> I think that Kreg built the pocket jig years ago to help him make his own cabinets for his house. He wanted to make them his own at the time when back in the '70s. The cabinets were built by big shops and Kreg thought up the simple jig to bring it to the woodworker that is in the smaller shops and garages. You might say bad marketing but, at the time it made good sense. Are you going to tell me that you wouldn't buy a jig to simplify your work in your shop. I am not a spokeswoman for Kreg but, a person that remembers that when I was a kid you could not get a jig like this one unless you had a lot of money. History tells us that screws were made from wood and metal also. Are you going to say that a company making metal screws comes up with a better screw is bad marketing too. Think about it.</p> Justin,
Those classes are his…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2013-02-12:2900167:Comment:5212602013-02-12T17:34:05.604ZKen Dargahttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/KenDarga
<p>Justin,</p>
<p>Those classes are history.</p>
<p>Here, we're dealing with the present.</p>
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<p><br/> <cite>Justin Everett said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/bad-marketing#2900167Comment521237"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I am learning more from this thread than in my college history courses. Carry on Kreg, carry on. </p>
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<p>Justin,</p>
<p>Those classes are history.</p>
<p>Here, we're dealing with the present.</p>
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<p><br/> <cite>Justin Everett said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/bad-marketing#2900167Comment521237"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I am learning more from this thread than in my college history courses. Carry on Kreg, carry on. </p>
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</blockquote> I am learning more from this…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2013-02-12:2900167:Comment:5212372013-02-12T16:04:32.889ZJustinhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/weekendwoodwarrior
<p>I am learning more from this thread than in my college history courses. Carry on Kreg, carry on. </p>
<p>I am learning more from this thread than in my college history courses. Carry on Kreg, carry on. </p> Kreg built a better " mousetr…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2013-02-10:2900167:Comment:5205782013-02-10T05:49:01.451ZPaul Joneshttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/PaulJones542
Kreg built a better " mousetrap", good for them. Especially an affordable one.
Kreg built a better " mousetrap", good for them. Especially an affordable one. Right spot on! Kreg Tool did…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2013-02-09:2900167:Comment:5201532013-02-09T19:09:41.543ZCornelius W. Badiehttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/CorneliusWBadie
<p>Right spot on! Kreg Tool did not invent pocket hole joinery, they simply created a better way to do it.<br></br><br></br><cite>Jay Boutwell said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/bad-marketing#2900167Comment520390"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Well I guess if you developed a new method of making a mortise and tenon joint then you could and would have the right to call it a "Steven Joint". In this case Kreg developed a new method of creating the pocket hole…</p>
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<p>Right spot on! Kreg Tool did not invent pocket hole joinery, they simply created a better way to do it.<br/><br/><cite>Jay Boutwell said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/bad-marketing#2900167Comment520390"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Well I guess if you developed a new method of making a mortise and tenon joint then you could and would have the right to call it a "Steven Joint". In this case Kreg developed a new method of creating the pocket hole joinery.<br/> <br/><cite>Steven Power said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/bad-marketing?commentId=2900167%3AComment%3A520388&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2900167Comment520106"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">Whether the Egyptians did use a similar method or not I can't prove but the point was Kreg trying to sell this "remarkable" New type of joint they have renamed after themselves when people had already been using such joint beforehand.<br/><br/>It would be like me creating a machine to make mortice and tenons faster and easier for the public and trying to call it a "steven joint", when all it is, is an aid to assist in making a m and t joint, if that makes sense.<br/><br/>Like I said I like kreg products and they do help in making certain cabinetry tasks more accurate and easier to complete.</div>
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</blockquote> Well I guess if you developed…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2013-02-09:2900167:Comment:5203902013-02-09T06:26:46.235ZJay Boutwellhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/JayBoutwell
<p>Well I guess if you developed a new method of making a mortise and tenon joint then you could and would have the right to call it a "Steven Joint". In this case Kreg developed a new method of creating the pocket hole joinery.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Steven Power said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/bad-marketing?commentId=2900167%3AComment%3A520388&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2900167Comment520106"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">Whether the Egyptians did use…</div>
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<p>Well I guess if you developed a new method of making a mortise and tenon joint then you could and would have the right to call it a "Steven Joint". In this case Kreg developed a new method of creating the pocket hole joinery.<br/> <br/> <cite>Steven Power said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://kregjig.ning.com/forum/topics/bad-marketing?commentId=2900167%3AComment%3A520388&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2900167Comment520106"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">Whether the Egyptians did use a similar method or not I can't prove but the point was Kreg trying to sell this "remarkable" New type of joint they have renamed after themselves when people had already been using such joint beforehand.<br/> <br/> It would be like me creating a machine to make mortice and tenons faster and easier for the public and trying to call it a "steven joint", when all it is, is an aid to assist in making a m and t joint, if that makes sense.<br/> <br/> Like I said I like kreg products and they do help in making certain cabinetry tasks more accurate and easier to complete.</div>
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Egyptian farmers used…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2013-02-09:2900167:Comment:5203882013-02-09T05:10:01.633ZKen Dargahttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/KenDarga
<p>Steven,</p>
<p>Egyptian farmers used oxen to pull a single-blade plow, to till the soil.</p>
<p>Today, there are farmers with John-Deere tractors, or the like, that pull multiple plow blades that till multiple furrows or soil. </p>
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<p>Milwaukee Tools, and the like, make electric circular saws that cut wood more efficiently and faster than the old hand saws of yester-year. </p>
<p>Egyptians use adze, and the like, before hand saws became available.</p>
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<p>I'm sure some may…</p>
<p>Steven,</p>
<p>Egyptian farmers used oxen to pull a single-blade plow, to till the soil.</p>
<p>Today, there are farmers with John-Deere tractors, or the like, that pull multiple plow blades that till multiple furrows or soil. </p>
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<p>Milwaukee Tools, and the like, make electric circular saws that cut wood more efficiently and faster than the old hand saws of yester-year. </p>
<p>Egyptians use adze, and the like, before hand saws became available.</p>
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<p>I'm sure some may have used the same adze to make furrows, preparing the soil for planting corn.</p>
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<p>Before the introduction of tank weaponry, cannons were the norm---</p>
<p>before that, people used clubs and threw rocks. </p>
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<p>Lots of progress has been made since the Egyptian era, </p>
<p>and wood joinery methods were first introduced.</p> Whether the Egyptians did use…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2013-02-08:2900167:Comment:5201062013-02-08T18:41:37.541ZSteven Powerhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/StevenPower
Whether the Egyptians did use a similar method or not I can't prove but the point was Kreg trying to sell this "remarkable" New type of joint they have renamed after themselves when people had already been using such joint beforehand.<br />
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It would be like me creating a machine to make mortice and tenons faster and easier for the public and trying to call it a "steven joint", when all it is, is an aid to assist in making a m and t joint, if that makes sense.<br />
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Like I said I like kreg products and…
Whether the Egyptians did use a similar method or not I can't prove but the point was Kreg trying to sell this "remarkable" New type of joint they have renamed after themselves when people had already been using such joint beforehand.<br />
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It would be like me creating a machine to make mortice and tenons faster and easier for the public and trying to call it a "steven joint", when all it is, is an aid to assist in making a m and t joint, if that makes sense.<br />
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Like I said I like kreg products and they do help in making certain cabinetry tasks more accurate and easier to complete. well put Jaytag:kregjig.ning.com,2013-02-08:2900167:Comment:5202632013-02-08T14:25:45.450ZMandodadhttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/mandodad
<p>well put Jay</p>
<p>well put Jay</p> I personally doubt the Egypti…tag:kregjig.ning.com,2013-02-08:2900167:Comment:5200182013-02-08T13:41:20.651ZKen Dargahttps://kregjig.ning.com/profile/KenDarga
<p>I personally doubt the Egyptians used pocket hole joinery.</p>
<p>Tenon joinery was the go-to method.</p>
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<p>Around the first century, screw shaped tools became common, however, historians do not know who invented the first. Early screws were made from wood and were used in wine presses, olive oil presses, and for pressing clothes. </p>
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<p>Metal screws used as fasteners did not appear in Europe until the 1400s.</p>
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<p><span><span>In 1770, an English instrument maker,…</span></span></p>
<p>I personally doubt the Egyptians used pocket hole joinery.</p>
<p>Tenon joinery was the go-to method.</p>
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<p>Around the first century, screw shaped tools became common, however, historians do not know who invented the first. Early screws were made from wood and were used in wine presses, olive oil presses, and for pressing clothes. </p>
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<p>Metal screws used as fasteners did not appear in Europe until the 1400s.</p>
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<p><span><span>In 1770, an English instrument maker, invented the first satisfactory screw-cutting lathe.</span></span></p>
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<p><span><span><span>In 1797, an Englishmen, </span><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.lindsaybks.com/arch/maud/" target="_blank"></a><span>invented a large screw-cutting lathe that made it possible to mass-produce accurately sized screws.</span></span></span></p>
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