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Anyone had a Kreg Joint Fail? Then why do we need the Kreg Jig HD?

I built my work bench out of 2x4s using regular Kreg screws and Joints and never had a problem. I also built my washer dryer stands using 2x4's with no issues. The rest of the people on here have built thousand of projects using regular joints. So what gives?  Sorry to be the turd in the punch bowl, but I think its just over engineering. Only my opinion. I welcome all comments.


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For those who think Kreg is "over-thinking" the basic pocket hole, ever take a look at how many different hammers there are for sale?  After all, how many different ways can you pound a nail?

We now have small, medium, and large pocket holes.  How good is that!


I agree with your comments---

Re ''Hammers''---

You want hammers?

Every hammer I have and use, has a specific purpose.

I've expanded into using ''electric hammer/drivers, air hammers, nailers, staplers, palm nailers".

"One can't have too many tools''.

  There's those who frequently complain or make negative comments---

they don't have anything constructive to say.

  My former Engr Mgr/Dir, use to say, ''There's those who can't design, but they can redesign''.


So, when is Kreg coming out with an ''X-HD'' version, so I can use it for ''landscape timber'' construction projects?

I'm ready for one.


Do you drive an automobile?

Do you think they're ''over engineered''?

It's all about the money, don't fool yourself. Anything to make money in this economy. The good thing is we don't have to buy it or anything else if we don't want or need it. Nice to have choices though. 

Every tool I have ever owned was made by some company just trying to make money off of me.  Imagine that!

Ken, I just finished a raised garden bed made of 6x6 timbers.  You mean I could have used Kreg on that too?

Ken Darga said:

So, when is Kreg coming out with an ''X-HD'' version, so I can use it for ''landscape timber'' construction projects?

Not sure I understand the push against HD in some of the posts here.  If you're using bigger pocket holes with bigger, strong pocket hole screws, to be applied to bigger stock, isn't this a good thing?  I certainly think so!  Although, the price is a little steep, in my view, for an add on to my current jig.  I think an additional $60 is a bit much.  Having said that...using it would certainly make a project many times stronger than nails or using the previous screws available for pocket holes!  For the guy who's project fell due to snow, he really caught a bad break, especially since his vehicle was damaged as well, but I think using this HD jig with the bigger screws would have solved that issue.  Additionally, my friend built a Tree house for his son using the K3 jig and they had a real bad tornado come through and it ripped the roof off his house but that tree house is still there and undamaged!  I'd say that trumps wet snow!

The point is that current owners should be given a discount on this add on product. That would be the right thing to do. Nobody has to buy this add on if they don't want to. It should also be included with the other original set up in future products. Not for 60 dollars more. But the world is not right or fair most of the time. Money rules all. Just ask "Pacman" who got robbed last night by the crook Bob Arum about that one.

Matter of fact Ken- When the neutral lockout switch affects the operation of the windshield wipers, turn signals, radio and power steering... yes, I think something ain't right.

Ken Darga said:


Do you drive an automobile?

Do you think they're ''over engineered''?

Matt H wrote---

>>> Anyone had a Kreg Joint Fail? Then why do we need the Kreg Jig HD?/span>


To answer, the original question---

To provide tools to fasten larger cross-section wood members.

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