In my beginning years as a home builder, the man i worked for bought me a stair jig, we built 3 to 4,000 sq ft. homes in ct. i became the stair man , when the rest of the crew would move on to the next home to be built, i would stay and build the stairs . i use to do it with a square and brass knocks, as we called it, mark them all out and i then would make a bunch of cuts , within the marks i made, with a skill saw and then chisel all the meterial out, long process to say.. then my boss found the ( porter cable stair ease router template jig ) WOW, what a pleasure that jig was, took a quarter of the time to do, then the previous method. i was about 20 years old when this new jig fell into my lapp. and now i am 48 , and i have to find another one like it !! i found one on e-bay, for $300.00 , way to much money , that jigg used to be around $100.00 . if anyone knows where i can get one, please contact me, at email@example.com , i have told a kreg rep about this jig, and hopefully they come up with something like it, at a price we can afford.. it's a must have jig for woodworkers that build stairs... i know this isn't a product review, but it's a product wish !!!!!!! and i think kreg can come out with a simmular jig !!!!!!