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Comment by Jay Boutwell on June 6, 2011 at 10:30pm
Jens that is quite a compliment to receive from someone, Thank you very much , and thank you again for the confidence you have in my ability.   As always I am ready and willing to help my fellow members with anything that I can do.  That patio table would be a pretty nice project for you to do.  Later my friend.
Comment by Jens Jensen on June 6, 2011 at 10:01pm

I might be doing a patio table 8 sided and six feet across for sister in Idaho..Might be bugging you on tips and techniques

I dont have to say keep up the good work cause I dont think you CAN fail

Comment by Jay Boutwell on June 6, 2011 at 3:46pm

Thanks David, sure you can get the angles right. I have seen too many of your very well put together pieces of work that you have done that is second to none.  It is a matter of saying I can do this and then you are almost there. 

 Do the math using the formula of:  360 degrees in a full circle.  In a 12 sided object there is 24 mating sides so divide the 24 into 360 degrees.  The results is 15 degrees cut on each side of the segment.    SHORT CUT: In this six sided table it is being configured off of a 12 sided object and since it is a 1/2 circle or 180 degrees, using the same formula of now being 12 mating sides in the 180 degrees, divide that and you still have 15 degrees cut on each segment. 

This formula works for any number of sides shaped on the principe of a 360 degree circle.  For example on a 10 sided object there will be 20 mating surfaces so divide the 20 in 360 degrees and the result is 18 degrees on each segment side.  on a 5 sides one there is 10 mating sides so divide 10 into the 360 degrees and the results is: 36 degrees on each segment.  It is a simple formula and accurate.  Here is a list of common objects......4 sides is 45 degrees-----------8 sides is 22 1/2 degrees----------The hardest to set up is the 7 sided one which figured out to be 25.7 degrees.  (This is rounded off from the sum of 25.714285 degrees)  Yep finer than a frog's hair.

In building this 12 sided or 6 sided table, build yourself a simple saw sled with an adjustable fence on the back and use a protractor and set the angle of the fence  to 15 degrees.  Square up your stock and cut one cut on each of the six segments and using the edged of the sled and the cut you just made set up a stop block against the fence of the angled fence to help hold the segement and then make the other 6 cuts on the stock.  The secret is making the cuts exact and the easiest method to do this for us woodworkers is to use a saw table sled, an accurate saw the is set up correctly, a quality sharp blade and well prepared stock.  Questions????? about any of the above , please contact me and I will try to help. 

When I get more time I will try to explain my methods of build accurate table saw sleds and might put together a slide show on build a couple sleds.  Have a great day and  enjoy your work.

Comment by David Dean on June 6, 2011 at 1:30pm
sweet job I never could get the angles right to save my life.
Comment by Jay Boutwell on June 6, 2011 at 8:42am

Thanks Steve, you are too nice and easy on me.  Yor are cutting yourself short as you have plenty of talent, craftsmanship and knowledge. I have seen some of your work and read your posts so you do have all the above.  I have talked at great lengths with you in the chat room and it is very apparent that you are quite knowledgeable in  shop and craftsmanship and have the desire to attempt new things in projects.

As I have told others craftsmanship has a lot to do with having self confidence and the desire to acheive something.  If you tell yourself that you can do it you are more than half way there.  There are only so many mistakes a person can make in building a project and learning how to recogonize and correct the mistakes will result in a satisfaction of a well built  project.  The more you build the more you build up that confidence and develope the patience that it takes to perfect your abilities. Some of the projects you have posted on here would give any craftsman a run for their money.  What you don't realize is that you are a good teacher.  From chat conversations and reading your posts, I have learned much from you.   Again thank you for a nice complement.  Have a great day!!!!

 

 

Comment by steve kidd on June 6, 2011 at 6:55am
very nice jay, i can only wish i had half of the talent and craftsmanship that you have. keep up the wonderful work. cant wait to see the next project. you inspire us all.

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